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I never thought that the spate of burglaries "back then" were operators from across. Why would you? Got to get the stuff off the Island. Lots of suspicious activity and processes to go through where you could get caught. So many hangups to come here when there are such rich pickings back over there, much closer, just down the road. To come here you either need your own marine transport which costs, or come at the mercy of the Racket and get robbed by them before you've done your own robbing. Loads of planning, time, cost, effort involved and these characters are not into that. Quick, easy wins are what they want.

Nah. Had to be local scrotes, and they were just too smart for Plod. Hard to believe, but the only reasonable explanation.

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26 minutes ago, woolley said:

I never thought that the spate of burglaries "back then" were operators from across. Why would you? Got to get the stuff off the Island. Lots of suspicious activity and processes to go through where you could get caught. So many hangups to come here when there are such rich pickings back over there, much closer, just down the road. To come here you either need your own marine transport which costs, or come at the mercy of the Racket and get robbed by them before you've done your own robbing. Loads of planning, time, cost, effort involved and these characters are not into that. Quick, easy wins are what they want.

Nah. Had to be local scrotes, and they were just too smart for Plod. Hard to believe, but the only reasonable explanation.

Yes I’d agree with that. There were loads of people saying it couldn’t possibly be locals but I would put money on that it was. 

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6 minutes ago, thesultanofsheight said:

 Yes I’d agree with that. There were loads of people saying it couldn’t possibly be locals but I would put money on that it was. 

"They weren't true manx" - Rushen Spy probably

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....... but don't thePolice pretty well know who the local baddies are? Who to go looking for? Keep an eye on six of them and sooner or later they would catch them with the Swag?

Of course, it could have been a couple of rogue police, if there are any????? :whistling:

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5 hours ago, Derek Flint said:

I'm not going to elaborate on that, but even with this 'spike', detection rates for burglary is still far higher than in the UK. 

Well you'd certainly hope it was.  Because the purpose of burglary is to steal stuff and the purpose of that is to sell it and make some money - unless you're lucky and find some cash - but few people keep much at home nowadays.  Professional burglars are going to want to steal in an area where there is a reliable market for their takings and that isn't here.  You can try to move stuff off the Island with extra cost and danger of detection or flog stuff on e-bay and risk someone spotting it.  But it's easier to exercise your talent in places where there are more opportunities and fewer risks.

So any burglaries on the Island are likely to be done by the local incompetents, like the man with the toilet duck[1], people who the Police know all too well and are bound to make all sort of easily detected mistakes.  So detection rates ought to be high.  And of course you don't need a successful prosecution for a crime to 'solved' for the purposes of crime statistics.

 

[1]  Itself a rather odd case given that he appears to have served his (longish) sentence before he had his trial, which literally Alice in Wonderland stuff.

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2 hours ago, TheTeapot said:

"They weren't true manx" - Rushen Spy probably

I actually said they probably are locals and all this "they're back" stuff is nonsense as they've probably never left.

Whether or not they're Manx is a whole different subject and not one I care to go into. Let's just agree that there are lots of "local" pond life.

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1 minute ago, Rushen Spy said:

Whether or not they're Manx is a whole different subject and not one I care to go into.

That's somewhat disappointing :(

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1 hour ago, Kopek said:

....... but don't thePolice pretty well know who the local baddies are? Who to go looking for? Keep an eye on six of them and sooner or later they would catch them with the Swag?

Of course, it could have been a couple of rogue police, if there are any????? :whistling:

No. They have already done that one. I remember it well.

Didn't it end up improving local driving standards ?:ph34r:

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7 hours ago, piebaps said:

There may be for you, but for us members of the public it simply means that nobody was caught. This also means they're still out there.

As for your last sentence that's just internet horseshit. Its sounds like a school playground. "I know something that you don't know ner ner ner".  If you can't contribute to the thread because you're privy to information which you're contractually unable to disclose, then don't contribute. You sound like Rob fecking Callister with the old "I'm so important I know something you don't" bullshit. You retired. Your working knowledge was current until the day you left the job. From then on you are just a civvy like the rest of us.

I am indeed a civilian, but at the start of your rant you position me as something else. I was still a member of the Constabulary then, and know what happened. With what I had posted, I’d hope it was pretty clear as to generally what took place, but the reason I won’t elaborate further is not some “mightier than thou” sneering, more that it would mean explaining in depth matters the SIO had determined not to do at the time as part of his investigation policy. 

If it is likely to affect current or past operations, then you won’t find me going into it chapter and verse. The Oath doesn’t stop applying the day you walk out the door. 

Hope that helps - but thanks for the feedback regardless.

 

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Have to get an MHK to ask the question in the Keys then? Jasonnnnnn.

 

...but then, what possible harm could it do to explain to the public, that you know who it was but could not find enough evidence against them? It should have kept them 'quiet' and assure the public. It could also have led tp one or more being named on social media and led to fingerpoiinting as an interim punishment?

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10 hours ago, piebaps said:

There may be for you, but for us members of the public it simply means that nobody was caught. This also means they're still out there.

As for your last sentence that's just internet horseshit. Its sounds like a school playground. "I know something that you don't know ner ner ner".  If you can't contribute to the thread because you're privy to information which you're contractually unable to disclose, then don't contribute. You sound like Rob fecking Callister with the old "I'm so important I know something you don't" bullshit. You retired. Your working knowledge was current until the day you left the job. From then on you are just a civvy like the rest of us.

I think 'tool of the North' is a more apt name for this fuckwit and his ranty pants.

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Should be relatively easy to nip any resulting spate of burglaries in the bud then. Keep a very visible eye on the half dozen who were arrested and released last time and throw them in the back of the van at the slightest sign of an offence, however minor.

Or get someone from across to come over and take them for a trip in a boat and drop them off somewhere between Peel and Ireland. Are police forces allowed to do that here? I know it works in Mexico, I've seen it on the telly. 

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