Hospital Car Park

[manxy]

As EZ said, 'Picking up change for parking won't be in my priority list'

If a friend or loved

 

Don't give them ideas

£5 for the first half hour in the cemetery per hearse
£10 for the first 10 mins at the civic amenity site
£5 an hour to park to take your kids to a park
A toll of £1 per roundabout used

Just think of all the civil servants we could employ to 'manage' all that new 'revenue'

You're right OMF, but surely there's a limit as to how low they could stoop?

 

[oldmanxfella]

But the issue isn't the church, it's hospital car parking. Hospital car parks cost money. The cost of the land, the cost of paving them, the care and maintenance of them- why should people who use them NOT pay?

Yes. The cost of the land (which we originally paid for), the cost of the paving (which we originally paid for), the care and maintenence (which we already pay people to do from our taxes).

Edited February 24, 2015 by oldmanxfella

[spook]

@ oldmanxfella - why NOT charge to park a car at a park? Or a kids playground? Why NOT charge for public amenity facilities? After all why should the user's NOT pay what they use that others do not?

[oldmanxfella]

@ oldmanxfella - why NOT charge to park a car at a park? Or a kids playground? Why NOT charge for public amenity facilities? After all why should the user's NOT pay what they use that others do not?

Err, because we have already paid for these things through our income tax.

[manxy]

There are a great many churches where people have to feed a parking meter.

 

But the issue isn't the church, it's hospital car parking. Hospital car parks cost money. The cost of the land, the cost of paving them, the care and maintenance of them- why should people who use them NOT pay?

If that's what your Parliament wants in the bigger financial mess across the water, then that's their choice and as you moved there, then you accept the terms of that country.

Over here, Our Parliament has not gone down that road and I would prefer the island to have our quaint but noticeable differences than that across.

[spook]

So the money paid out for the land etc. can be recouped over a period of time by charging for its use.

 

The Island is in DEEP trouble where public finances are concerned. It makes perfect sense to treat established infrastructure such as public car parking as an investment that can be capitalised on by charging for its use.

[spook]

@ many. Nice sentiment but you can't afford it.

[oldmanxfella]

So the money paid out for the land etc. can be recouped over a period of time by charging for its use.

The Island is in DEEP trouble where public finances are concerned. It makes perfect sense to treat established infrastructure such as public car parking as an investment that can be capitalised on by charging for its use.

Here's a better idea. We already paid for all this stuff once through our taxes (and NI in terms of the original hospital loan). So why should we be charged to use assets we already own and have paid for to raise money to pay people's pensions which they won't pay into themselves?

[woolley]

There are a great many churches where people have to feed a parking meter.

 

But the issue isn't the church, it's hospital car parking. Hospital car parks cost money. The cost of the land, the cost of paving them, the care and maintenance of them- why should people who use them NOT pay?

Because we live in a compassionate Christian society and people visiting hospitals either as patients or in many cases as visitors are often at a very difficult and upsetting time in their lives. The last thing they need is to be faced with the hassle and expense of dealing with the rigmarole of a charging car park. What they actually need is help, sympathy and compassion. This is something that should be centrally funded. As has been described above, it would not be difficult to weed out the park and riders who need to be stopped.

 

And who cares what works in England? Actually, this measure doesn't because it is universally despised there.

[manxy]

The problem is the suggested use of the hospitals car parks by those who park up and either take a bus in to work or get a lift in to work by one of their colleagues/ friends.

Just seems that charging has numerous problems and another charge just affects peoples budgets even more.

 

Couple of suggestions below and I could be well off the beaten track, but someone else might have an idea from them - worth a try.

Would a few additional cameras aimed at the car park or some voluntary people on 'lookout' make a difference? If people are seen to leave a car and get a lift out of the hospital premises, would a warning or some type of note stuck on the cars windscreen make more financial sense?

[oldmanxfella]

It's a re-circulating problem just like the airport parking situation at the moment. It's £6 a day to park in Douglas which is a lot of money. If we didn't charge such excessive rates to park in town people would not be clogging up the hospital carpark to save a few quid a day. If we are hellbent on charging for everything without cutting anyone any slack - this is the logical outcome. We are not a high value economy. Lots of people don't earn high wages and don't have high disposable income - so if they want to save £6 a day and spend only £2 a day busing it in from the hospital they will. They don't have much other option if they can't afford to park.

[conradthewoollyllama]

The overflow car park at the rugby club is where many of the staff in my section park to ensure we leave the main car park for visitors. There's usually space in there, and I feel staff should definitely be attempting to take the parks which are further out, allowing patients and visitors to get closer.

 

They're probably asking for interest as there's currently one poor bloke trying to stop the great masses of lazy idiots parking in disabled bays without passes. I see multiple people doing this daily, utterly disgusting. Not to mention the utter mess that is the parking near the building I work in.

[Buster Lewin]

Why don't they extend the car parking into the area between the helicopter pad and the main road, and allow this to be used free as park and ride, they will still get income from the bus fares and reduce the parking problem in South Douglas and the Promenade areas, that solves the stupid idea of implementing fees for car park permits for the people who live there.

[manxy]

Why don't they extend the car parking into the area between the helicopter pad and the main road, and allow this to be used free as park and ride, they will still get income from the bus fares and reduce the parking problem in South Douglas and the Promenade areas, that solves the stupid idea of implementing fees for car park permits for the people who live there.

I was just looking at the maps myself and there's a few fields that might just be useful without the need of entering the hospital grounds.

It would certainly cost a bit to get done and as for the length of time or who owns the land..... then you're guess is as good as mine.

[spook]

@ OMF - Money was invested in order to build such things as the hospital car park. That money can now be recovered by charging people who use the resource so assisting the Treasury.

 

There's a mindset involved. Because central funding was used to build a resource does not mean it should then be free to use thereafter.

 

It's going to happen. It has to.

 

Another means of funding essential high cost infrastructure is Private Finance Initiative wherein a business consortium puts up the capital to provide a facility and then leases it to the government over a period of time. It's an expensive means of delivering pubic services but where the capital is not available to meet a need it's the least worst solution.

 

There's a lot of sacred cows that are going to have to be slaughtered on the Island. What people have come to expect as their right and normal simply is not affordable any more.

 

I believe that there's a great many things that are going to have to be paid for by the people who make use of them.