Tugger Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 In other words, "I hope I was right - I would be gutted if I had left and loads of really bad shit didn't happen to everyone who stayed behind" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 No, Tugger. We would have left even if things were not en route for becoming very much worse. Conditions had become more than bad enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war baby Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Stop fretting about car parking charges, they are probably going to have to privatise the whole hospital soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Or the entire Manx National Health Service. It could well result with a marked improvement in provision as there would be an assurance of pension rights --- and payments. That would well make more medical professionals viewing working on the Island much more favourably than at present. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Or the entire Manx National Health Service. It could well result with a marked improvement in provision as there would be an assurance of pension rights --- and payments. That would well make more medical professionals viewing working on the Island much more favourably than at present. After the election over there and the publication of the cuts to come, it won't be such a problem as the conditions on offer will equalise. If we'd had any sense we'd have kept schtum about the changes until the UK showed their hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempus Fugit Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 was up at Nobles today, car park crammed, all the access roads lined with cars, even the overflow park was nearly full, crazy if people are using it as park'n'ride, bosses need to be patrolling the place and watching the buses between 7-9am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FACT Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 It's a hospital car park and should be used just for hospital related users. Barriers and redeemable vouchers verified by reception staff. No voucher, no exit. It's trespassing and a civil offence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 I'm afraid that there's more than a few people on the Island that are going to have to face a future that is going to be VERY different from what they have come to expect as being their 'rights'. Not only the loss of what has been free at the point of use but also how life will change as the various professionals bail out for somewhere that is not facing a 'Perfect Storm' as the changes bite, and in biting create even more changes - and even harder bites. Any young person who can escape from what IS coming down the pike really should. The Island has a history of emigration peaks, the next has started. Time to join it, or get ready for the coming depression. My first thought reading that drivel was to wonder why spook was worried about Islamic State ("...IS coming...") My second thought was "Why doesn't spook just f off from this forum? He's left the island, which has resulted in a small but probably measurable uplift in QoL for the rest of us, so why can't he just join norfolkforums.com and spout bollocks there instead?" 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meir Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Any young person who can escape from what IS coming down the pike really should. The Island has a history of emigration peaks, the next has started. Time to join it, or get ready for the coming depression. My first thought reading that drivel was to wonder why spook was worried about Islamic State ("...IS coming...") My second thought was "Why doesn't spook just f off from this forum? He's left the island, which has resulted in a small but probably measurable uplift in QoL for the rest of us, so why can't he just join norfolkforums.com and spout bollocks there instead?" You sound awfully angry. Spook's post was quite reasonable. Wrighty - do you hospital staff pay for their parking spaces at the hospital? On well over £100,000 a year - and keeping in mind "we're all in this together" - I think you should get your wallet out and pay for parking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 I've no objection to paying for parking at the hospital - I've done it before when I worked in the UK. It's my choice to go to work in a car. I could walk. What I would object to would be a ticket system for staff - a permit system with an annual payment taken straight out of my salary would be fine. Also, it would be unreasonable to charge staff to park for emergency call-ins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flubbergump Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Or the government could just acknowledge they made the hospital car park too small in the first place? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxy Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Any young person who can escape from what IS coming down the pike really should. The Island has a history of emigration peaks, the next has started. Time to join it, or get ready for the coming depression. My first thought reading that drivel was to wonder why spook was worried about Islamic State ("...IS coming...") My second thought was "Why doesn't spook just f off from this forum? He's left the island, which has resulted in a small but probably measurable uplift in QoL for the rest of us, so why can't he just join norfolkforums.com and spout bollocks there instead?" You sound awfully angry. Spook's post was quite reasonable. Wrighty - do you hospital staff pay for their parking spaces at the hospital? On well over £100,000 a year - and keeping in mind "we're all in this together" - I think you should get your wallet out and pay for parking. Disagree. Instead of saying we're all in this together and let's hit everyone financially because of the ongoing problem of high end CS ineptness towards their pensions, I'd say that I think the public have paid enough and parking should remain free. As said before, people are only parking in the hospital grounds because of the high cost of parking charges in Douglas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meir Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 I've no objection to paying for parking at the hospital - I've done it before when I worked in the UK. It's my choice to go to work in a car. I could walk. What I would object to would be a ticket system for staff - a permit system with an annual payment taken straight out of my salary would be fine. Also, it would be unreasonable to charge staff to park for emergency call-ins. I agree. I think the cost of such a system would far outweigh its intended benefit. All the hospital really needs to do is get one of its millions of lazy civil servants who do nothing all day to get off their arses, walk out of the canteen and have a walk around the car park every few hours to photograph cars which shouldn't be there and then email it to the IOM Constabulary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 I understand the argument that because a facility has been provided and paid for by the Public Purse but reject that means that it should in all cases be free to use. Look on it as an investment of taxpayers money. By charging for its use that investment can recoup the outlay so enabling the Treasury to have income from that investment, income that otherwise would have to made up by increased taxes. By focusing on the user's of the facility the return on the investment be can be obtained from those who benefit from the investment and that is as it should be. It's not as though it's a vital part of what the NHS should be delivering after all. At our local hospital the process is working well and the charging for hospital car parking is nowhere nearly as disliked as is being made out. For the disabled parking is free on presentation of their Blue Badge, for people needing to make frequent visits a virtual book of tickets can be bought, and for patients who have to attend day clinics a concession is granted that means they only pay for the first hour.. Staff have a seperate car park for which they pay a slightly lower rate than the public and part to the management of the car park includes a very diligent team of parking attendants. The result is a system that works, is generally well received, and puts a huge disincentive to people who might look on it as a cheap alternative to in town parking. Because a facility has been created using tax payers money is absolutly no reason why it's use should be free, indeed a return on that expenditure is absolutly correct in such a case as a hospital, car park or for that matter any car park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 'By focusing on the users of the facility the return on the investment can be obtained from those who benefit from the investment and that is as it should be.' A true child of Thatcher. We're talking about sick people and their relatives who need to go to the hospital. And the people who work there on our behalf. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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