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Has anyone ever put forward a reasoned, balanced argument for why the Isle of Man needs to retain a system which encompasses 24 MHKs, 9 (?) MLCs and God alone knows how many Local Authorities overloaded with Commissioners?

Bell, Comin and the MLCs know that the gravy train cannot be derailed under the present system. Now with a referendum.......

There are 11 MLC's. They jus can't agree on the next two to join the club.

It is genuinely awful. The IOM has been such an incredibly wealthly place over the last 25 years but now we find ourselves in a dire position which means ALL areas need looking at.

 

A referendum on MLC's is the way forward. With a proposal for what will replace them. Given what they do I'd suggest a couple of lawyers at most would be required.

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A couple of lawyers on top of those already in place to draft legislation?

 

A couple of unelected lawyers for us to argue about?

 

Are they truely independent? Are they biased? Are they Freemasons? Heaven forbid!

 

 

Scrutiny by a selected committee of elected MHKs, producing a report to be given to MHKs ahead of a vote on the matter and being allowed to enter the debate to counter the official Dept position. That should do it?

 

All preceded, of course, by a flat rate of £50/55 k for all MHKs to ensure that they cannot be 'bought'!

 

Now, shall we argue about that pay rate?

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Perhaps the simple solution for Legco membership is a scheme similar to the House of Lords in the UK. That is they are not members of a Government Department and only receive an attendance allowance for the days that Legco actually sits. That would ensure that it does not become a rest home for old MHKs but (hopefully) attracts people who believe in the Isle of Man and have something to offer without being concerned about a large payout every month.

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The lordies are paid £300 per visit, even if we cut that back to £200, three days a week, turn up do a few hours work, rest of the day off, £600 a week, £24k a year, still a nice pension supplement?

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I was thinking of it as an overpayment for the work done and an unecessary expense for work that MHKs should be doing.

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We all know this needs sorting, but chance would be a fine thing, to alter anything it would take a change of law and who would be voting ? yes, the very ones who aspire to the comfortable little nest themselves. It is a ridiculous situation and how to solve it ?whatever.gif

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We all know this needs sorting, but chance would be a fine thing, to alter anything it would take a change of law and who would be voting ? yes, the very ones who aspire to the comfortable little nest themselves. It is a ridiculous situation and how to solve it ?whatever.gif

An independent commission.

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The lordies are paid £300 per visit, even if we cut that back to £200, three days a week, turn up do a few hours work, rest of the day off, £600 a week, £24k a year, still a nice pension supplement?

But they would not usually meet for 3 days a week, it is usually only one and maybe 3 days when Tynwald meets on 9(?) occasions a year. They should receive the same allowance paid to those who sit on tribunals and other government bodies, that is about £50 per half day.

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By 4-30 pm we will discover runners and riders for round 3 of the greatest farce in the western world that isthe Leg-Co elections, any betting on who will be put forward ?

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I suppose that will include again David Anderson, the last guy who was the Minister for Health, a department openly criticised by the new CEO when he took over. Other than enjoy the kudos of being the Minister, Anderson did nought of any worth for our health services when he was Minister. He surely reached his political peak when he was nine years a local commissioner.

 

Tim Crookall is desperate to avoid a general election as he got his arse severly kicked at the last one, saved only by the fact that he was opposed by four newcomers who split the vote so severly he managed to scrape in. The people of Peel have spoken loudly. Tim speaks loudly too but with little substance.

 

Phil Braidwood. As far as I am concerned - and I mean this - the most useful thing I have ever seen him do is lick a stamp for an elderly lady in his post office. Aye, you can't beat being paid £1000 a week for being an MLC and carrying on your business.

 

No doubt the votes of the new boys - the lickspittle Malarkey and the masonicly influenced Ralph Peake will make some difference.

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As it relates to the present election system, once a person has been subject to two election processes then the Rules should prevent his name from continuing to be brought forward to further election rounds, as it is clear that the electors don't have confidence or that the candidate is suitable. Any views?

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As it relates to the present election system, once a person has been subject to two election processes then the Rules should prevent his name from continuing to be brought forward to further election rounds, as it is clear that the electors don't have confidence or that the candidate is suitable. Any views?

I'd agree with that. Otherwise you'll have the same Masonic x-factor voting system we had earlier this year.

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