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I've been thinking (well it is April) and it occurs to me that the whole matter of dumping what is unquestionably hazardous waste, and it IS unquestionably hazardous, in the cavalier manner that has been proposed raises a question that should be asked, and answered.

 

Given that Gawne couldn't find his own backside even with a mirror, a bright light, and written directions and so might not be criticised too much for it, there should be at least one Civil Servant who realised that what was being proposed was not only illegal under international law let alone anything else such as planning evaluation and consent.

 

So why did this not happen?

 

It's not as if the resources to determine the composition of the contaminated silt do not exist in the forum of the government laboratory the remit of which specifically includes such tasks.

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Just dry it out, give Phil some petrol and a box of matches. He'll sort it.

These days the silly ass would probably just end up setting fire to himself.

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He should have tried harder in the education classes in Victoria road shaun.gif

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It's strange how only 6 months ago the pollution threat was so insignificant that the DOI were pumping the silt off the end of Peel Breakwater? Or was that too cheap a solution?

 

Why not pump the silt into the old brick quarry? It's only a few hundred yards upstream.

 

If the harbour is full already and the marina has only been in 5 minutes, looks like it's going to be an ongoing process. So fit a decent slurry pump and continuously run it lightly loaded once the main bulk has been removed.

 

And a word to the wise if Cretters has any influence with the project; find out the contractors from the IRIS scheme (you know, the ones who designed the pumphouse at the White Hoe) and exclude them from the tendering process.

 

Then charge the toff boat owners for the installation/running costs.

 

TBT.

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It's strange how only 6 months ago the pollution threat was so insignificant that the DOI were pumping the silt off the end of Peel Breakwater? Or was that too cheap a solution?

 

Why not pump the silt into the old brick quarry? It's only a few hundred yards upstream.

 

If the harbour is full already and the marina has only been in 5 minutes, looks like it's going to be an ongoing process. So fit a decent slurry pump and continuously run it lightly loaded once the main bulk has been removed.

 

And a word to the wise if Cretters has any influence with the project; find out the contractors from the IRIS scheme (you know, the ones who designed the pumphouse at the White Hoe) and exclude them from the tendering process.

 

Then charge the toff boat owners for the installation/running costs.

 

TBT.

 

Because the silt that is severely contaminated with heavy metals would still leach out.

 

The Marina is acting as a machine to extract and concentrate heavy metal contaminants.

 

One question that should be addressed is what survey was conducted to determine the nature of and concentration of heavy metal pollution was coming down the Neb, and why the designers of the Marina didn't take account of placing what is in effect a dam across the Neb would have on the settling out of solid matter coming down the Neb in the settlement pond that the Marina forms.

 

This whole thing should now be subject to a public enquiry going back to when the Marina was first proposed in order to tease out just who was responsible for this screw up because screw up it is.

 

A screw up that is now proving to be a very real health hazard that will need to dealt with in a way that doesn't create a problem further down the line because of a stupid proposal to dump contaminated silt in a manner that WILL come back and bite people in the future.

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Nobody would have been stupid enough to discharge the leachate drawn from the Raggat on a regular basis into the tidal harbour after it was closed to make a marina would they....

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Nobody would have been stupid enough to discharge the leachate drawn from the Raggat on a regular basis into the tidal harbour after it was closed to make a marina would they....

On the Island and with Gormeless Gawne involved?

 

Probably they would.

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There are quite a lot of experimental research projects going on with various techniques to extract heavy metals and precious metals from sewerage effluent and silt.

 

I was reading this one on Gizmag site recently: http://www.gizmag.com/metals-from-biosolids/36695/

 

There are other projects being undertaken to do similar extraction with silt deposits.

 

A quick Google brings up these: https://www.google.com/search?q=extracting+heavy+metals+from+silt&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

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First of all, lets stop calling it a marina, its a settling pond. Whoever thought of calling it a marina in the first place should have also provided the solution to the silting problem.

Spook is speaking sense when he says its a screw up, many people in the know have been saying for years that this was going to happen and because its been left for so long its now a massive, expensive problem.

 

The river carries silt containing heavy metals in small quantities into Peel harbour and it used to go out to sea in such dilution that it was never a major problem. Now however, the river slows so much in the new SETTLING POND that the silt settles out and concentrates there. This is not just my opinion, its what actually happens.

 

DEFA have taken and tested numerous samples from all areas of the "marina!?" and found extremely high levels of toxic material. {toxic if released into the environment in its current concentration} DEFA are advising the DOI but unfortunately the DOI are not only the owner of the problem they are also the licensing and enforcing authority for the dumping of hazardous material. So basically they can give themselves permission to do whatever they want with it!

 

If the silt had been managed from year one it would just be a simple case of doing a few weeks maintenance dredging every year and all parties would have been happy.

 

The latest attempt was the suction dredger, which was, well lets just say it was a PR nightmare! Pumping sludge off the end of the breakwater was never going to fly was it? That dredger has cost us well over a hundred grand, was never capable of doing the job in Peel and now its sitting in Douglas where it has achieved the square root of fuck all.

 

So its hardly surprising that Ann Reynolds has gone off island for a solution.

 

Suck it up people, this going to cost us, BIG TIME!

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There are quite a lot of experimental research projects going on with various techniques to extract heavy metals and precious metals from sewerage effluent and silt.

 

I was reading this one on Gizmag site recently: http://www.gizmag.com/metals-from-biosolids/36695/

 

There are other projects being undertaken to do similar extraction with silt deposits.

 

A quick Google brings up these: https://www.google.com/search?q=extracting+heavy+metals+from+silt&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

 

Yes, and membrane technology has advanced significantly in recent times.

 

Money to be made here if you can keep Cretters and Skelly adrift from negotiations.

 

TBT.

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The real issue here is that transporting and dumping waste in the manner being proposed and making use of an entirely unsuitable long term store is not only incredibly stupid, it is illegal, and there should be a public enquiry to establish just who is responsible for the creation of the Peel Marina disaster, because disaster is what it unquestionably is.

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Skelly will be fully occupied with the six new banks won`t he?

Have you made a typo after "new"?

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Phil Gawne also stated that the, "marina" ha, generates £3o,ooo of income. Will that figure be revised once we get the clean up bill?

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Some of the boat owners will be HNWIs so there,s no way they'll hike the mooring charges.

 

DOI will probably raise car tax for the over 60s and stop road repairs to pay for the silt removal instead...

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