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Some of us already know where to look and point. People are not always as clever as they think they might be. Time will tell.

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Whats needed is an internal whistleblowing facility. In my experienced opinion!

A substantial part of the problem, if not the root cause of most of the problem comes from where whistleblowing should originate.

 

sorry I don't quite understand

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It's because a lot of if not all of the screw ups are being born amongst the people who are in a position to 'blow a whistle' but of course won't on the basis of turkeys and voting for Christmas.

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One day you lot will wake up to what is going on.

 

Great post there Rob I was told that by a friend a few years back but didn't know the figures, surely the lease is just there to keep the iom bank ticking over and once the lease finishes I bet major spending will be needed on the infrastructure of the plant ?

 

What's their answer to that? upgrade it then sell it again :w00t:

 

There is no accountability to these bloody halfwits so they can do as they please, and the good old boys in the MLC make sure of that.

 

They really are embarrassing in there greed.

 

Are you not thinking of going for MHK Rob the island needs a few more thorns to keep an eye on the pricks :thumbsup:

I am not turning my back on the EFW costs.

 

Here is a copy of the information I brought to the attention of Onchan Commissioners' on 16th March 2015:

 

Report of the Chief Executive dated 11th March 2015 was considered.

 

Commissioner Callister thanked the Board Members for giving further consideration to his report into the costs for disposing of waste at the Energy from Waste Plant and the escalating gate fees, which were introduced from April 2013. He wished to remind Members that their duties as elected Members, and that of the Board, were towards the ratepayers of Onchan and not on behalf of the general taxpayer or Central Government and its Departments.

 

Commissioner Callister directed Members attention to a Motion brought before the Tynwald Court on 18th February 2010 by Mr Shimmin, the then Minister for Local Government and the Environment The Motion brought before the Court was as follows:

 

That Tynwald

 

(1) approves the removal of the 90% subsidy on domestic waste disposal charges

approved by Tynwald in June 2003, and

 

(2) approves the introduction of a domestic waste disposal charge of £29 per tonne with effect from 1st April 2010.

 

Commissioner Callister also drew Members attention to further content of Mr Shimmins speech:-

 

The gate fee is £29 per tonne and that is what we will levy. No subsidies. Any attempt to introduce any changes from the gate fee would have to come back and get Tynwald approval

 

Mr Shimmin also stated that;

 

I would repeat, Mr President, the gate fee is the processing cost. No capital costs are included in disposing of waste at the facility. We believe it is appropriate.

 

Commissioner Callister advised that, to the best of his ability, he had reviewed Hansard for all Tynwald Court sittings between February 2010 and April 2013, and was unable to find any further Motions being brought before Tynwald whereby the increased Gate fees were debated, not to mention the transfer of ANY government Capital costs onto the ratepayer. He felt that this, again, raised further questions as to whether due process had been followed and if the Department of Infrastructure should have obtained Tynwald approval before introducing the Escalating Gate Fees from April 2013. In his opinion, he did not believe Local Authorities should pay Government Capital Projects costs, and this amount alone would save Local Authorities around £68 per tonne in disposal charges. Between April 2013 and April 2018 Onchan District Commissioners are expected to take on over £600,000 of costs from the Department of Infrastructure.

 

Commissioner Callister believed that there was sufficient evidence within his report, and the details given within the Chief Executives report, to try and save around £300,000 (or 42p) being put onto Onchans rates by April 2018, and hoped that the Board would support his conclusions in the Waste Report.

 

http://www.onchan.org.im/uploads/16-03-15-odc-minutes.pdf

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You cannot just blame a MHK for this, there also has to be blame put at the door of the advisers and other parties that have helped in coming up with these schemes.

 

I tend to think that most of the spending in government is usually advised by the people they are purchasing off sorcerer.gif

Yes, but you have to ask yourself are the rights questions being asked by our elected MHK's and MLC's.

 

My Waste Report re. "Escalating Gate Fees" at the Energy From Waste Plant clearly shows just one example;-

 

 

Your report was excellent too Rob!

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You cannot just blame a MHK for this, there also has to be blame put at the door of the advisers and other parties that have helped in coming up with these schemes.

 

I tend to think that most of the spending in government is usually advised by the people they are purchasing off :sorcerer:

 

Yes, but you have to ask yourself are the rights questions being asked by our elected MHK's and MLC's.My Waste Report re. "Escalating Gate Fees" at the Energy From Waste Plant clearly shows just one example;-

Your report was excellent too Rob!

 

Thanks Will - let's hope a number of local authorities start asking the right questions on behalf of the ratepayers

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Far too many nodding dogs in local politics who don't even ask questions, just go along with the herd.

 

Personally the government needs radical change and what services that are not needed should then be done away with.

 

The government should of never got to the point it is now, its not sustainable to have 1 in 5 of those capable to work being employed, a small island of 85000 shouldn't have to have the burden of it.

 

Until people realise that the only way to change it is to upset the status quo then its going to continue.

 

Keep up the good work there Rob, looks like Onchan have some good politicians who are there for the community and not themselves thumbsup.gif

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Now that Duncan Bridges of the Manx Wildlife Trust has expressed grave concerns regarding possible contamination of the environment, will Mr Gawne undertake a full Enviromental impact assessment on the site? Would Mr Gawne do anything if the site was of Manx National importance? You bet he would! On the other hand ...............

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I never saw any tender invitation notices for this latest dredging operation in the press. Done some interwebbing and cannot find anything either - was there one?

 

What environmental impact assessments where included in the expression of interest and tender process (if any)?

 

PG was on the radio last month and said it was going to be his team doing the work, but an Irish firm appears to be now doing it. (RA O'Neil - specialist marine contractor) I actually asked the question he answered on the great Mr Peter's show as to when the dredging was going to start as I needed to park a boat for TT. Up to that point, as far as I an aware, no tender notices had gone out.

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Mention has been made that dumping the poisonous silt at sea would harm the filter feeders, presumably some scallop beds.

 

We, I might be in the minority but if i were still a Manx resident I would infinitely prefer that some scallop beds were put out of commission than land and water courses on the Island were poisoned.

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Jobs for the boys, you all should know how it works over here by now, roll up your trouser leg and hey presto your an overnight success sorcerer.gif

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Before the building of the Marina, and the blocking of the Harbour entrance, what happened to all the

contaminated silt that was in Peel Harbour?

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The fairy people took it away to make false legs for injured teddy bears?

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Until people realise that the only way to change it is to upset the status quo then its going to continue.

 

Keep up the good work there Rob, looks like Onchan have some good politicians who are there for the community and not themselves thumbsup.gif

 

I live in Douglas East and gave my vote to someone who I thought fitted this criteria.

 

I now have never in my life felt so shat on as I do tha noo.

 

 

 

Off topic?

 

 

I hope not.

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I got told ann summers bought it and turned it into plastic rabbits, they seen a gap in the market that needed filling so it was said sweat.gif

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