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Bernard Moffatt - Newspapet Columnist


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It's amazing that IOM Newspapers have gone with this as a regular thing. It's like watching someone in an old peoples home bash out a random, boring, monologue, on an ancient typewriter to be posted to the local council about dog shit or parking permits or some such other irrelevant matter.
It probably gives a tiny bit of balance to the rest of the Political / Financial News-sheet, being a half page amongst the boring COM / Business Section and a couple of hundred Court Case reports. May I comment you on your beautiful prose in putting forward your argument. Well done

I'm just saying it as it is as a reader. The articles bore the arse off me and they are just the view of an ageing union rep who is totally out of touch. I also agree with the Albert and a few others - he is one of the reasons why we have ended up as Cuba in the Irish Sea with a bloated out of control public sector that is running us into the ground. As for our government being right wing, again, I'm sorry but I don't see it.

 

We are a socialist paradise that elected to not tax the rich but instead fleece the UK through the VAT agreement and other agreements so we could pay bus drivers and baggage handlers £40k a year and load millions onto our wages bill (and billions onto our pension debt) employing an entire public sector totally out of scale to what was required to run our services. We did it because of people like Moffatt bleating on about 'the workers' and to create a compliant over paid public sector that would do everything it was bloody well told to do by its paymasters. We now can't get out of this system, or even trim it back.

 

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Times have changed. Whilst I'm sure Mr. Moffatt has a point about conditions forty years ago the present ones are far too generous given what has happened economically.

 

Ireland did what they needed to do with civil service packages. We need to do the same.

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Bernard Moffat is one of the major architects of our current financial position, and much of the bloat that continues to consume a disproportionate amount of it.

 

I didn't think his article was particularly well written, and I can see him making a fool of himself with regular articles such as this, though perhaps that might be a desirable outcome for many.

 

He should spend far more time in retirement with his family and in his garden IMO.

I'm not sure that all this could entirely be laid at Bernie Moffatt's doorstep. I've certainly never personally subscribed to a lot of his views but as the T+G honcho, his "baby" was the manual workers/bus drivers etc, true, but don't the CS have their own union and negotiating body who would be equally to blame? And you've got to look at the weak Govt. management that caved in to demands on a regular basis (and were able to because the amount of money that was sloshing around facilitated it).

 

The flip side of it is of course, if you were a private sector skilled worker, for instance, earning £3 an hour in the good old 1980s IoM whilst your UK equivalent earned £6-7 an hour for doing the same job (I speak from experience here), would you have objected to Bernie Moffatt pushing for you to be given equal footing? No, of course not.

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Bernard Moffat is one of the major architects of our current financial position, and much of the bloat that continues to consume a disproportionate amount of it.

 

I didn't think his article was particularly well written, and I can see him making a fool of himself with regular articles such as this, though perhaps that might be a desirable outcome for many.

 

He should spend far more time in retirement with his family and in his garden IMO.

I'm not sure that all this could entirely be laid at Bernie Moffatt's doorstep. I've certainly never personally subscribed to a lot of his views but as the T+G honcho, his "baby" was the manual workers/bus drivers etc, true, but don't the CS have their own union and negotiating body who would be equally to blame? And you've got to look at the weak Govt. management that caved in to demands on a regular basis (and were able to because the amount of money that was sloshing around facilitated it).

 

The flip side of it is of course, if you were a private sector skilled worker, for instance, earning £3 an hour in the good old 1980s IoM whilst your UK equivalent earned £6-7 an hour for doing the same job (I speak from experience here), would you have objected to Bernie Moffatt pushing for you to be given equal footing? No, of course not.

 

But that was never the case with bus drivers, baggage handlers or hospital porters in the 1980's and certainly is not the case now though, is it?

What do those three groups earn now compared to across?

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Bernard Moffat is one of the major architects of our current financial position, and much of the bloat that continues to consume a disproportionate amount of it.

 

I didn't think his article was particularly well written, and I can see him making a fool of himself with regular articles such as this, though perhaps that might be a desirable outcome for many.

 

He should spend far more time in retirement with his family and in his garden IMO.

I'm not sure that all this could entirely be laid at Bernie Moffatt's doorstep. I've certainly never personally subscribed to a lot of his views but as the T+G honcho, his "baby" was the manual workers/bus drivers etc, true, but don't the CS have their own union and negotiating body who would be equally to blame? And you've got to look at the weak Govt. management that caved in to demands on a regular basis (and were able to because the amount of money that was sloshing around facilitated it).

 

The flip side of it is of course, if you were a private sector skilled worker, for instance, earning £3 an hour in the good old 1980s IoM whilst your UK equivalent earned £6-7 an hour for doing the same job (I speak from experience here), would you have objected to Bernie Moffatt pushing for you to be given equal footing? No, of course not.

 

But that was never the case with bus drivers, baggage handlers or hospital porters in the 1980's and certainly is not the case now though, is it?

What do those three groups earn now compared to across?

 

I didn't say it was the case with those particular examples.

 

A few years ago, Mary Williams, then Chief Secretary, gave an invited lecture to some business group or other. During this she outlined how the Govt. planned to create a high-wage, high cost economy on IoM. I know, I was present at the meeting and I'd suggest they got some way to achieving that,

 

But how would the Island's workers have maintained their income levels to keep up if they hadn't had BM for instance, fighting for them? Most employers back in the eighties were mired in the terms and wages of the 60s.

 

Donald Gelling also used PS pay to drag private sector pay up by the bootstraps and boasted that he'd done so around 1992 IIRC.

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I have to admit I have started flicking straight to Bernie Moffat's page as soon as I read the paper. The LegCo, Tynwald columns made some nice points.

 

I don't think he is ever going to write a column about fluffy, cuddly Manx kittens though.

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Say what you want about unions, but just see who is doing best from them :-

 

Bus Drivers

Fireman

Postmen (don't they have a week off every four weeks on top of their usual holidays?)

Airport Baggage Handlers

Bus Cleaners

Senior Nurses/Management

Police

 

I have worked in the private sector for many years and have never been asked to join a union - maybe that is why we are being crapped on and I will have to work until 66 until I get any govt dosh (some one has to keep paying NI contributions to keep govt pensioners in buttons)

 

Every other govt worker seems to taking early retitrement in their fifties!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The Legislative Council should be there to serve democracy and the people of the Isle of Man. Instead they have become puppets and lickspittles for the Council of Ministers, many of them previously in that role or very much in a supportive role.

 

The role and purpose of the Legislative Council needs to be defined and updated. But hey, is Bell & Co. gonna go for that?

 

The Isle of Man is an example of a shameful democracy. How else would all these cuts get made and all the huge salary increases and big pay-offs etc go to such as high ranking civil servants.

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