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Public enquiry in to last year's Tholt-y-Will road death

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If he was a murderer and upon release went and murdered someone again I'd understand but are we really suggesting that if he had been kept in prison longer he'd not have driven a car recklessly?

 

I think you meant to say "driven a car recklessly, that he wasn't insured to drive, was banned from driving, had no license to drive even if he hadn't been banned, had manipulated permission to drive it under false pretences, was over the limit to drive, was driving it whilst in possession of drugs, and finally killed someone in the act of using the car to flee arrest for DUI, having just assaulted the arresting officer".

 

Those are not the actions of a rehabilitated criminal. He was released 3 weeks earlier (from a long sentence for armed robbery of a pregnant woman). Not 3 months, let alone 3 years. 3 WEEKS.

 

We should all be concerned about why unrehabilitated, dangerous people are being released early.

 

and there i rest my case.no defence,a killer.

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If he was a murderer and upon release went and murdered someone again I'd understand but are we really suggesting that if he had been kept in prison longer he'd not have driven a car recklessly?

 

I think you meant to say "driven a car recklessly, that he wasn't insured to drive, was banned from driving, had no license to drive even if he hadn't been banned, had manipulated permission to drive it under false pretences, was over the limit to drive, was driving it whilst in possession of drugs, and finally killed someone in the act of using the car to flee arrest for DUI, having just assaulted the arresting officer".

 

Those are not the actions of a rehabilitated criminal. He was released 3 weeks earlier (from a long sentence for armed robbery of a pregnant woman). Not 3 months, let alone 3 years. 3 WEEKS.

 

We should all be concerned about why unrehabilitated, dangerous people are being released early.

 

What would actually help is if people served their sentences rather than being released half way through.

 

This guy will be out in, what, 5 years?

 

There's no real hope for him. Better if he tops himself inside.

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What would actually help is if people served their sentences rather than being released half way through.

 

 

 

That's part of it. But if the serve their full sentence and are STILL not rehabilitated, can we really be said to have succeeded?

 

I don't think so.

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I imagine it's an enquiry into why he was released and how he escaped after being apprehended, then how was he not caught and stopped after the amount of training police drivers are given?

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What would actually help is if people served their sentences rather than being released half way through.

 

 

 

That's part of it. But if the serve their full sentence and are STILL not rehabilitated, can we really be said to have succeeded?

 

I don't think so.

 

Then they stay there !!

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public enquiry isnt going to change anything...just like some people cant be changed or rehabilitated. Some are just criminal full stop.

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then how was he not caught and stopped after the amount of training police drivers are given?

WTF? Have you been watching too much TV? Answer me this, in practical terms how do two officers in a car stop another moving vehicle on Tholt -y - will Road?

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then how was he not caught and stopped after the amount of training police drivers are given?

WTF? Have you been watching too much TV? Answer me this, in practical terms how do two officers in a car stop another moving vehicle on Tholt -y - will Road?

 

 

If he was so desperate to get away then I don't think anything was going to stop him so there wasn't another way. Unless they took some crazy American cop role and rammed him off the road or shot the tyres out.

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If I was the family of the person who died, I'd like to think I'd find a way for some ... justice... to be dealt inside the prison.

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If I was the family of the person who died, I'd like to think I'd find a way for some ... justice... to be dealt inside the prison.

 

Ooh, it's Al Capone.

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then how was he not caught and stopped after the amount of training police drivers are given?

WTF? Have you been watching too much TV? Answer me this, in practical terms how do two officers in a car stop another moving vehicle on Tholt -y - will Road?

 

 

If he was so desperate to get away then I don't think anything was going to stop him so there wasn't another way. Unless they took some crazy American cop role and rammed him off the road or shot the tyres out.

 

Not such a bad idea in hindsight though.

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If he was a murderer and upon release went and murdered someone again I'd understand but are we really suggesting that if he had been kept in prison longer he'd not have driven a car recklessly?

 

I think you meant to say "driven a car recklessly, that he wasn't insured to drive, was banned from driving, had no license to drive even if he hadn't been banned, had manipulated permission to drive it under false pretences, was over the limit to drive, was driving it whilst in possession of drugs, and finally killed someone in the act of using the car to flee arrest for DUI, having just assaulted the arresting officer".

 

Those are not the actions of a rehabilitated criminal. He was released 3 weeks earlier (from a long sentence for armed robbery of a pregnant woman). Not 3 months, let alone 3 years. 3 WEEKS.

 

We should all be concerned about why unrehabilitated, dangerous people are being released early.

 

 

So you're saying that once arrested and convicted any criminal has to pass a "rehabilitated" test in order to be released regardless of what stage of their sentence?

 

And this test will be flawless will it?

 

Madness

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