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It just needs to be proved as stolen goods. If the serial number is identified as stolen from a shop...if you have it you'll still get done for handling stolen goods.

 

Rubbish. According to the Theft Act 1981:

 

24 Handling stolen goods [P1968/60/22]

 

(1) A person handles stolen goods if (otherwise than in the course of the stealing), knowing or believing them to be stolen goods, he dishonestly receives the goods, or dishonestly undertakes or assists in their retention, removal, disposal or realisation by or for the benefit of another person, or if he arranges to do so.

 

(my bold)

 

So the Prosecution has to prove that the accused knew that the goods were stolen. If they can put up any case why they might have thought that the goods were obtained legally, then they would be in the clear. Possession isn't enough.

 

As to serial numbers, I shouldn't imagine that most items of make-up etc have their own unique serial number that gets recorded on sale or not. Obviously larger or high value goods (cars, electrical items, phones) will have them but even then the above will apply.

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The report doesn't give much information. It seems that she is living off £120 per week to support herself and her special needs son? I am sure that now, having served a prison sentence, that she will be unable to find work.

She is certainly in a trap now if she wasn't before this incident. I find theft abhorrent but a society which fails vulnerable people like this, driving them to steal, needs to begin to look inwards at itself.

We are fostering an underclass, living from hand to mouth and passing its principles on to its younger generations. We need to address the problem before it gets out of hand.

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Down in londinium I was called to carpet world about a theft. They were having a ten minute staff meeting about the increase in theft from the store. During the meeting someone stole out an entire roll of Lino with the stand as well.

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The only tit here is a society that causes people to live on the breadline and sends them to prison for doing what they have to to survive.

 

And there was me thinking llap was TJ

What possible meaning or relevance does this odd comment have? No wait, I'm not interested.

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The report doesn't give much information. It seems that she is living off £120 per week to support herself and her special needs son? I am sure that now, having served a prison sentence, that she will be unable to find work.

She is certainly in a trap now if she wasn't before this incident. I find theft abhorrent but a society which fails vulnerable people like this, driving them to steal, needs to begin to look inwards at itself.

We are fostering an underclass, living from hand to mouth and passing its principles on to its younger generations. We need to address the problem before it gets out of hand.

 

I know but apparently she's been handed probation 8 times before. What can they do? She's clearly a serial offender who won't stop and she's been given 8 previous chances to stop. It had to get custodial at some stage surely?

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The report doesn't give much information. It seems that she is living off £120 per week to support herself and her special needs son? I am sure that now, having served a prison sentence, that she will be unable to find work.

She is certainly in a trap now if she wasn't before this incident. I find theft abhorrent but a society which fails vulnerable people like this, driving them to steal, needs to begin to look inwards at itself.

We are fostering an underclass, living from hand to mouth and passing its principles on to its younger generations. We need to address the problem before it gets out of hand.

 

We really don't know the circumstances, do we?

 

This sort of mess happens far too often.

 

Where's the father of the child? Is he paying in?

 

What 'special needs' does the child have? I find it's being used as a catch-all description that goes from poor numerate or reading skills, to rowdy behaviour to severe mental or physical disability. If he/she does have a severe problem, that is a very serious matter and should be addressed.

 

Being poor shouldn't automatically attract sympathy on its own. Sometimes it's because people without jobs or the ability to put a roof over children's heads, clothes on their backs or a meal on the table decide to have babies.

 

It looks like the judge knew more about this repeatedly offending thief and her circumstances than we do.

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Special needs does seem to cover a wide range of difficulties, Addie, and seems to be used as a convenient justification for all sorts. My son has special needs, he can only eat Dominoes pizza with gusto, everything else he picks at. Some may say he has special needs incurring considerable cost, others may say he needs a metaphoric boot up the behind. I fall into the latter camp so he gets ordinary home-cooked food most of the time. I give in to his special needs when I don't feel like cooking.

 

If her son was truly special needs, then wouldn't she be entitled to a carer's allowance?

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Special needs does seem to cover a wide range of difficulties, Addie, and seems to be used as a convenient justification for all sorts. My son has special needs, he can only eat Dominoes pizza with gusto, everything else he picks at. Some may say he has special needs incurring considerable cost, others may say he needs a metaphoric boot up the behind. I fall into the latter camp so he gets ordinary home-cooked food most of the time. I give in to his special needs when I don't feel like cooking.

If her son was truly special needs, then wouldn't she be entitled to a carer's allowance?

His special needs were probably an iPhone 6 a new watch and a designer tracksuit. All of which he probably has now after a nicking spree that spans 8 referrals to probation and one conviction.

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shes shoplifting to fund a heroin habit tarne is correct she will also steal others script meds ..often she gets a call from a local peado "bring your young feller round iv got him some weed oh and some progabs for you" all rooms are camra covered the room the kid gets sent to is full of porn ive said enough i do wonder where the kid is while shes in jail

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