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Who was on the committee?

Where is the report published?

 

The Committee is the Tynwald Standards and Members' Interests Committee according to the Manx Radio report. Presumably the Report will be published either on its webpage or with the Order papers for the next Tynwald sitting. The current members are Rodan (Chair), Cretney, Quayle, Quirk, Robertshaw and Wild (though as usual he seems to have excused himself).

 

It's worth pointing out that according to its latest Annual Report (para 15):

 

At present, only Members of Tynwald can refer matters to the Committee. This is a useful filter for excluding any unsuitable complaints; the Committee can only take notice of very serious matters which are significant breaches of the standards to be expected. We would not expect to be asked to decide on matters which might be more suitably investigated by an Ombudsman (when one is appointed) or which may be settled by voting at the next election. The Committee cannot be a forum for trivial complaints. Any other approach would be to devalue the currency of an adverse report on a Member from this Committee.

 

which suggests that there is a danger that these sort of procedures will be mainly used to point-score between politicians rather than deal with genuine public concerns. Certainly such standards committees with councils in the UK were often used to try to prevent councillors who were members of the awkward squad from doing their job rather than dealing with genuine abuse.

 

That said you'd think the work of the Clerk of Tynwald's office was fairly non-controversial and any complaints against fairly fact-driven and easy to determine one way or another and so bullying would be fairly obvious.

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My reading of it is different from JAB...   In 2010 a Member of Staff (MSA) objects to being challenged about their work standards and puts in an accusation of their manager Mrs L bullying them.  

Needs a new thread, but fuck it, put it in bold:   From Manx Radio:   The chief minister has described the suspension of an MHK from Tynwald this week as one of the lowest points in his political

Whatever you think of Houghton (not much I suspect for many of us) this sort of disciplinary action is a dangerous interference in democracy. Under New Labour English Councils had to set up Standards

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The reason that Houghton thinks it is a witchhunt is solely because he is too arrogant to know, understand and accept that his general demeanour is as such. I think he genuinely believes that the way he acts and behaves is normal, it seems almost autistic.

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The executive summary is brilliant

 

"This has been a complex investigation, some of the evidence presented is contradictory, and Mr Houghton strongly refutes the allegations and has presented a significant challenge about almost every process followed, almost all of the people involved with the original staff matter, the subsequent complaints and the investigation undertaken by this Committee"

 

So it suggests that he's thoroughly bullied and challenged the committee and everyone else every step of the way ..... in an attempt to show that he's not guilty of bullying people. The irony that portrays is outstanding.

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What is staggering is the cost of the man hours involved in producing 414 pages of bilge. No wonder bus drivers etc have petty rows if the elected reps are behaving like this.

 

These people have no concept of what we pay them for.

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I've not read it all, but, Houghton has tried to help a member of staff having an issue at work. It is as if he is a balloon that someone has blown up and let go without tying the end, he's all over the place, releasing hot air and making a noise.

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This is very nicely coordinated indeed

Someone has even had his wiki page updated in the last day to include this event

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Houghton_(politician)

They really do work fast on the shit spreading these days.

Many elements of that Wiki page are hopelessly out of date. The recent update is probably by one of the myriad individuals that Huffton has been a total shit to.

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Any other Gov't worker facing similar allegations would be immediately suspended whilst an inquiry took place, which if proven would face summary dismissal.

What gives our so called politicians the right to circumvent these Gov't workplace regulations ?

They're not govt workers. They are given a mandate by the people

 

If you're going to be pedantic note that Houghton's mandate extends no further than the boundaries of Douglas North.

1376 votes,or 32% of the 4222 voters who turned out isn't a mandate from the nation.

 

Edit to add: what I'm highlighting is the point that if Houghton and many other MHK's had to truly gain a mandate from the nation then their backsides would never touch the seats in Keys.

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I've not read it all, but, Houghton has tried to help a member of staff having an issue at work. It is as if he is a balloon that someone has blown up and let go without tying the end, he's all over the place, releasing hot air and making a noise.

Yeah, that's my take on it too. Houghton finds "A" upset, it is claimed (not exactly clear by who) that "A" is being bullied by Z. "A" tries to make it clear they aren't making allegations, but by then the official procedures have started rolling - union reps, warning letters etc.

 

Houghton asks for things which aren't in the official procedures and things really start going array.

 

Goodness - Human Resources Issues and how to really mess things up! Looks like a perfect case study.

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Does this mean that MHKs cannot take up complaints on behalf of their constituents if the complaint is against the Govt?

 

Can Govt workers not have a bit of a moan about their job without getting fired for doing so?

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