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Have to say GD4 that looks like a cracking day out. Only 18 year old I'm feeling is this bottle of Lagavulin

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Have to say GD4 that looks like a cracking day out. Only 18 year old I'm feeling is this bottle of Lagavulin

 

It's my local - http://www.thewrightbrothers.co.uk/ferryboat-inn.html - this area is as close to heaven in Britain as you'll find.

 

As for 18 year-olds - 50 is the new 30 or something.

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The building is rotten from the 1st floor up and has been since the days when Bobby Gaines was manager. The Market Place facade, if not more of the building, is registered, in 1992. It's a property liability that cannot be modified and would cost a fortune to restore. So what to do? Leave it to rot a la Castle Mona without enforcement? Easy option.

Those were very busy days. Wednesday - Saturday. All busy.

You're not wrong. Which might then beg the question; Why weren't some of the profits undoubtedly generated invested back into the fabric of a building that has now been on the Register for no less than twenty-four years, as is legally obliged under such registration?

I wonder what the future now is for this very public building, sited in the newly regenerated area?

Would've made a good post office?
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The building is rotten from the 1st floor up and has been since the days when Bobby Gaines was manager. The Market Place facade, if not more of the building, is registered, in 1992. It's a property liability that cannot be modified and would cost a fortune to restore. So what to do? Leave it to rot a la Castle Mona without enforcement? Easy option.

Those were very busy days. Wednesday - Saturday. All busy.
You're not wrong. Which might then beg the question; Why weren't some of the profits undoubtedly generated invested back into the fabric of a building that has now been on the Register for no less than twenty-four years, as is legally obliged under such registration?

 

I wonder what the future now is for this very public building, sited in the newly regenerated area?

They should have redeveloped the upper parts. 5 or 6 apartments up there.

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Some people constantly say the brewery rip them off. So how much do you believe a pint of Okells bitter should cost?

 

South Manchester the cost in a "normal" boozer can cost as high as £3.85 for a pint of Timothy Taylor Landlord. Similar boozers in Douglas £ 2.95-£3. That is still 3 pints for a tenner

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It's true enough recent trip to peak district the ale was £3 £3.50 a pint I know the likes of weather spoons will give you a cheap pint but how much are they screwing there suppliers for it

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Some people constantly say the brewery rip them off. So how much do you believe a pint of Okells bitter should cost?

 

South Manchester the cost in a "normal" boozer can cost as high as £3.85 for a pint of Timothy Taylor Landlord. Similar boozers in Douglas £ 2.95-£3. That is still 3 pints for a tenner

It's not the beer to me. £2.95 for a pint of Okells is fine. But like I said in another thread about the Spar Shops it's the general mean spirited approach and the stuff they rip people off for which winds me up. The price of a glass of wine in a pub is disgraceful; I've paid less in the centre of London and for better wine. It's also the way they give you bargain basement old crap for top dollar. You can't get a Bacardi and Coke now; you get some cheap white rum and cola that they charge out for more than the price of a Bacardi and Coke. They're just a cheapskate organization looking at their margins above any sort of customer experience.

 

Same with Spar; They used to stock good quality wine. Now they stock cheap crap that the Brewery, I assume, get a better margin on. They are not bothered with supplying what people want. Just maximizing their margins by selling you whatever cheap old shite they think they can make a better turn on.

 

Then of course you have their joke restaurant priced mediocre pub food which is why hardly anyone eats out in a brewery pub anymore.

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A "large" glass of wine is Artesan is eye wateringly expensive.

 

Bottles and spirits are a massive rip off too.

 

There's no need for it really.

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Colby glen seems to be pretty busy for food since the flood. £23.60 for a gallon of MPA, which was my Saturday night :)

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The Colby is potentially £20k a week business in the right hands.

 

Not that there is any motivation to do it being paid 25k a year by the brewery.

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The Colby is potentially £20k a week business in the right hands.

Not that there is any motivation to do it being paid 25k a year by the brewery.

I can't imagine anyone voluntarily working for H & Bs if they had a half decent pub. That's why they won't sell any of their disused pubs without big covernants on them ensuring they can't be used as pubs by other people. They couldn't risk anyone actually making decent money off the back of decent food and reasonably priced beer in a nice environment.

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........................rest home for old MLCs ?

The waste of energy plant would be a better place for them, it's probably the only way of getting them to give anything back

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Yes, for the same reason cheap ties and shoes have been hit hard too. Ask Peter Luis.

 

Nothing was cheap in Peter Luis.

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Change in culture and lifestyles over the years is in my view the biggest reason for the decline in pubs. They were where blue collar workers went for a couple of pints after work. The community revolved around the local. That has long not been the case.

 

There was a very interesting piece on the radio this week about "millennials" and about why they are drinking and going out less than previous generations. In a nut shell much was down money with debt student loans and the competitive job market having a big impact. The other was social medium with "millennialls" doing much of their socialising via social media. Apparently a chat up line for a date is "fancy coming around for Netflixs and a chill"

 

Apparently more than 50% of nights have closed in the UK, and towns such as Scunthorpe which has a population not much smaller than the IoM closed its last nightclub recently. For various reasons peoples attitudes are changing and it is not just down to the price of a pint or whether it is a decent brewery. Thinking that shows our age.

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