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2 minutes ago, MrPB said:

I’m sure Dilligaf will tell you. He seems to tell everyone everything, 

Wouldnt a cafe have had space for parking out front on a road like that? 

Seem to remember that there was a hard surface open parking type area in front, probably where the garden would have been, might even have been tarmac?

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9 minutes ago, dilligaf said:

Joseph Bucknall are very much still going and are doing well. Yes they do supply lots to Quids Inn and so does H&B.

Barry, you can't live on past fantasies of glory. You cried wolf and lost. Enjoy your life in the smoke. They deserve you and vice versa. 

Cried wolf? Explain...

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There were nice tea room's just off the Jurby to Ballaugh coast road also the Beehive cafe? Certainly a little shop on Summer hill road  just outside Jurby.

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9 minutes ago, MrPB said:

I’m sure Dilligaf will tell you. He seems to tell everyone everything, 

Wouldnt a cafe have had space for parking out front on a road like that? 

It effing did yes.

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11 minutes ago, Burt said:

There was also a lovely cafe in the Garden Centre opposite Marown school. Its a hideous housing estate now. Not too sure if the Watsons used to run it. Used to be a specialist audio shop next door too. Mr Myers iirc. 

Was there not an Irving connection there ? Great café.

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33 minutes ago, dilligaf said:

Was there not an Irving connection there ? Great café.

Yes, the Watsons ran it then the Irvings took it over and gave it a grand name like "Garden World". 

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2 minutes ago, MrG said:

Yes, the Watsons ran it then the Irvings took it over and gave it a grand name like "Garden World". 

Then sold out for big bucks.

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Jurby Rd cafe, Killane Cafe???

Irvings garden centre had the Brown, Tourist Info road signs pointing to it! Come to the Island and visit a....what's this? A bloody garden centre!!! How embarrassing.

 

 

LA sgns removed......... trhere will be a lot of MF posters who want to buy them to put back up when they buy the building to re-open as a Pub :P

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Kopek, I don't think you have grasped the argument here. No one is saying necessarily that it should remain a pub. No one is saying they could 'show them how it should be done' or whatever. I think you will find most people agree it would be difficult to make it a viable pub.

The question is quite simple: Why have the brewery put a covenant on the building?

(Yes, yes, I know our resident lawyer has provided a reason, but that just fuels the argument. And always remember that statistics show that lawyers are wrong 50% of the time) 

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1 hour ago, gettafa said:

The question is quite simple: Why have the brewery put a covenant on the building?

And if that question ever elicits an answer then the follow up question needs to be, "Why are they allowed to put a covenant on the building/Sale under those circumstances?"

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1 hour ago, gettafa said:

Kopek, I don't think you have grasped the argument here. No one is saying necessarily that it should remain a pub. No one is saying they could 'show them how it should be done' or whatever. I think you will find most people agree it would be difficult to make it a viable pub.

The question is quite simple: Why have the brewery put a covenant on the building?

(Yes, yes, I know our resident lawyer has provided a reason, but that just fuels the argument. And always remember that statistics show that lawyers are wrong 50% of the time) 

Are we about to head into round 2?

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Round 2.4.

''   No one is saying necessarily that it should remain a pub...''

I think that is exactly what is being argued above and that ''someone'' / 'anyone' , could do it better than the brewery!

 

Getaffa, I know you are fond of ''Lawyers lose 50% etc...'' but in any court case, lawyers win 100% of the time!!!

Hn B can put a condition on the sale because it is their settled legal right to do so. Shall we restrict everyone from using their legal rights? Where will that end up?

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I think the only people who are concerned that someone/anyone could do it better than the brewery are . . . the brewery themselves.

It's back to the schoolboy 'pie' economics in that they think the 'pie' is only so big (and getting smaller) and they are going to grab it while it is there.

The pie could and should be bigger and better, with new fresh varied ingredients. But hey.

Well, I suppose they would look stupid selling a failing pub with liberty, and what if the new owner makes it a roaring success! But they look a bit silly lashing a covenant on it, you know, just in case.  A dead duck is a dead duck surely.

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20 minutes ago, gettafa said:

I think the only people who are concerned that someone/anyone could do it better than the brewery are . . . the brewery themselves.

It's back to the schoolboy 'pie' economics in that they think the 'pie' is only so big (and getting smaller) and they are going to grab it while it is there.

The pie could and should be bigger and better, with new fresh varied ingredients. But hey.

Well, I suppose they would look stupid selling a failing pub with liberty, and what if the new owner makes it a roaring success! But they look a bit silly lashing a covenant on it, you know, just in case.  A dead duck is a dead duck surely.

Maybe it’s a case of once bitten twice shy for them. Remember they only gave the Liverpool Arms to Danny and Graham thinking they were going to fail. Their success kind of left the brewery with egg on their faces

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