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6 minutes ago, piebaps said:

looking at the marketplace in Ramsey

Central - H & B

Swan - H & B

Truth - Privately owned

Bar Logo - Privately owned

Plough - Privately owned

Stanley - H & B

Traf - Privately owned

Mitre - Privately owned

Commie - Privately owned

Royal - H & B

It would seem that private enterprise is beating big business in the jewel of the north.

So no shortage of choice in Rhumsaa then.

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2 hours ago, dilligaf said:

Very unlikely ever to get a couple like Graham and Danny again. A very hard act to follow

Ain't that the truth

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37 minutes ago, dilligaf said:

Getting circular again isn’t it?

JW explained how easy is for anybody to start a pub, be it new build or conversion. 

Not many want do they ?

Not many new pubs getting built in  the U.K. either

not if there's a covenant on it ;)

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Is the LA a 'registered' property? 

I thought there was an online list but I can't find it.

 

ETA: Found it

Edited by Andy Onchan

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54 minutes ago, dilligaf said:

Getting circular again isn’t it?

JW explained how easy is for anybody to start a pub, be it new build or conversion. 

Not many want do they ?

Not many new pubs getting built in  the U.K. either

Yep, it is getting circular:

So why put a covenant on it. It's a dead duck as far as a pub is concerned. Ahh...because, just in case,  the brewery want to protect their business. that isn't there...or is it?

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More work today on the Liverpool Arms. The upstairs windows have also been boarded up, and the wooden fencing around the back yard has been pulled down. They certainly aren't expecting to sell it in the short term.

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''    More work today on the Liverpool Arms    ''

How much land was revealed with the back fence down? Believe there is quite a bit, perhaps more than the car park?

Maybe that makes the site, for someones mansion, more valuable than as a Pub?

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36 minutes ago, Kopek said:

''    More work today on the Liverpool Arms    ''

How much land was revealed with the back fence down? Believe there is quite a bit, perhaps more than the car park?

Maybe that makes the site, for someones mansion, more valuable than as a Pub?

With the fence down, the back door is exposed to the back of the car park, the communal waste bins and the LA gas tanks.

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59 minutes ago, Kopek said:

More work today on the Liverpool Arms    ''

How much land was revealed with the back fence down? Believe there is quite a bit, perhaps more than the car park?

Maybe that makes the site, for someones mansion, more valuable than as a Pub?

More valuable as a layby than a pub. Why can't people see that ?

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People with camper vans could park up there, get their little foldy chairs out and have a cup of tea while they watch the traffic go by!!! :P

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5 hours ago, piebaps said:

looking at the marketplace in Ramsey

Central - H & B

Swan - H & B

Truth - Privately owned

Bar Logo - Privately owned

Plough - Privately owned

Stanley - H & B

Traf - Privately owned

Mitre - Privately owned

Commie - Privately owned

Royal - H & B

It would seem that private enterprise is beating big business in the jewel of the north.

Indeed. And every one of those private houses listed with the exception of Bar Logo and Truth tapas is an ex-brewery house that maintains its clientele (or they'd be bust) through lower prices. And, er, being open. Whilst the brewery charges the max and its pubs are closed nights during the week and some Sunday nights too.

No wonder they're putting covenants on places they're trying to offload. They're being given lessons in how to run pubs they've previously sold.

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7 minutes ago, Kopek said:

People with camper vans could park up there, get their little foldy chairs out and have a cup of tea while they watch the traffic go by!!! :P

and it would still not lose money.

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Standard H&B  MO to make the place as big an eyesore as possible to try to give themselves leverage to get their own way.

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