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I've said it before and I'll say it again... Skelly as CM would be the terminal breath of credible politics in the Isle of Man.

Shut up.

I hope he gets in if only to piss you off. Which it clearly would.

No it isn't a manifesto ...

 

Last post 30th July.

 

IOM News and politics is a debating space for the mentally defective

 

Thanks - your shitty Facebook site has had a mention as a serious political site despite evidence to the contrary.

 

Facebook rankings and ratings are very easy to obtain.

 

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I'm not him and I don't have a Facebook site of my own. I did set up a page a few years ago for people who have a phobia of cheerios but I closed it because nobody else joined it. Not sure what is up with your fixation with bottles of human waste but maybe you can print your own manifesto on toilet paper.

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I disagree with James Hampton on the issue of direct democracy, but what Weevil central is saying is complete rubbish.

 

The https://jameshamptoniom.wordpress.com website, though not a manifesto, contains a lot more information than most MHKs' manifestos. He's also been a prolific poster on the IOM News and Politics page (which is a public group and has 2,003 members) so his views and outlook are known to people online who are interested in politics and I doubt anyone not interested in politics would be moaning online that they can't find out anything about him. There is plenty of time left for manifestos to be written.

 

Not responsive to communication? If you go on https://www.facebook.com/jameshamptonrus/ you'll see on the right hand side it says "Very responsive to messages" and "Typically replies within minutes". That's according to Facebook, not something he himself has written. I imagine he'll send out leaflets with more ways to contact him or go door to door in Rushen.

 

If I lived in Rushen, I'd vote for him before any of the other candidates.

Protenscious twaddle. I hope it doesn't get printed into a leaflet - it will present the electorate with the pamphlet equivalent of war and peace. I wonder if he got a my Junior MHK kit as a child as a Christmas present? I'm all for direct democracy and democracy in action, this is nonsense, a complete cop out - what he is going to do, a weekly meeting and let the attendees decide how he should vote? Fantasy Island politics.

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I found James Hampton's manifesto very interesting.

 

Direct Democracy.

 

Don't worry James, I don't have a vote on the IOM.

 

As many posters on here know, I am very left wing, but with a libertarian angle thrown in for good measure.

 

I can't see your idea working James. It's almost as if it is a "pass the buck to the voter" method of Government. I doubt very much that the average voter will want to be involved in making daily decisions on how the place is run. You might start out with a few dozen, but I suspect interest would soon vanish, and you would be left with the nutters. Not to say being a nutter is bad of course.

 

And why complicate things by wanting to be paid an hourly rate? That just creates more work for other people. It would be distruptive to efficient administration, and would more than likely cost more than if you just let them dump a wad of cash in your bank every month. Being an MHK is really a 24-7 job, and for that, the pay is really not that great. If you ask to be paid hourly, does that not open a minefield regarding what is official business, what is political campaigning, and even what could be seen as plain simple socialising? An hourly paid MHK was create a very messy and expensive to run system.

 

Take the money, and if you don't think you deserve it, give it away to charity.

 

Same with the pension. Let them pay into the pension. If you object to it come payout time, give it away.

 

I like your co-op workplace idea. That really appeals to me. But be carefull with your description of your CV. You claim 20 years experience in the building industry, but many of them was in higher education. I reckoned on 6 years of post school education.

 

And here is the biggest problem I have with the overall package you present. The public purse paid for your education to a high level. From my point of view, as a socialist, that is how it should be. Gifted people are given the opportunity, and they repay the cost by adding high value to the economy by paying paid more tax, and using their skills to improve the life of those around them. A skilled architect could design low cost social housing for example. And I like your ideas about alternative materials. I totally agree. But you business is aimed at the 1%. `

 

But you work as a carpenter. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Of course not. But what if some other person had wanted that Uni place you got? It seems strange to me for someone to get such a high level of education and then do a C&G at the end of it.

 

What you seem to be offering is to work outside the system. To give the poeple access to the inner workings via your elected position. But I fear that strategy would not work. Look at Trump. He claims to be outside the system. He says he will be strong, and that he will smash it from the inside. That is why he is so popular. You are offering to tickle the toes of the system, from the outside, by committee.

 

Ha ha. Sorry that this is all negative. I did not intend it to be.

 

All I want to say, is that I like some of your ideas. But it won't work if you are passive. Go full steam ahead fella. Change the system. But you need to do it from the inside. With a strong arm, and the backing of the people.

 

And I reckon you need to change your photo fella. When I first saw it on the Manx Radio website I thought " What on earth, is this a practical joke?". Show your face :-)

 

Right, sorry if this has come across as a bit blunt. I really do wish you all the best as you seek elected office. The IOM needs progressive thinkers. Someone like you perhaps. But you can only change things in small steps. And then, only from the inside.

 

Good luck dude.

 

 

Do you know what, though, I don't think Scampi's plan will work, I'm still tempted to vote for him.

 

We already know the Watterson model - the status quo - doesn't work.

We can be absolutely certain the Skelly model - anything you like so long as I'm CM - won't work.

 

If he gets in, I think, he'll quickly have to come up with a more practical model than he proposes. Given his democratic instincts that's bound to be better than the career politician and the career opportunist can come up with.

 

It'll be a protest vote, but one that would be fun if it came off.

 

 

Protest votes, going for the radically minded candidate.

 

It doesn't take them long to be seduced by the power and pampering that Tynwald members are so easily subjected to and succumbed.

 

They soon cross to the other side.

 

See Gawne, Robertshaw for details.

 

 

That's my worry about Kemp. He shouts loud about the establishment, but his own ideas are vacuous. He'll be take the pay rise for being a member of a department on day one, make a few grandstanding speeches then turn into a Malarkey or a Henderson.

 

Even if Scampi does go that route, it'll be five years before he's a position to be dangerous, Watterson or Skelly as CM is a danger that faces the Island in September.

 

 

 

Do you know what, though, I don't think Scampi's plan will work, I'm still tempted to vote for him.

 

We already know the Watterson model - the status quo - doesn't work.

We can be absolutely certain the Skelly model - anything you like so long as I'm CM - won't work.

 

If he gets in, I think, he'll quickly have to come up with a more practical model than he proposes. Given his democratic instincts that's bound to be better than the career politician and the career opportunist can come up with.

 

It'll be a protest vote, but one that would be fun if it came off.

I would probably vote for him too if I had a vote. His manifesto interested me. But he needs to refine it before the election, not after.

 

And also, his direct democracy needs to be tested. How will he react to negativity on here? If he cant handle that, how would he handle hostile village meetings after election? Would he walk away and "clock out", seeing as he wants to be paid hourly.

 

Ha ha. And what is his hourly rate anyway. Maybe he wants to charge £200 an hour :-)

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, but where is his manifesto?

He posted a link to it on this thread. Not a typical manifesto, more of an ideological agenda.

There's lots of people complaining on the Web that they can't actually see his manifesto or get in contact with him. His profile on Manx Radio says nothing - no email, no address, no phone number, no nothing, just a stupid picture.

 

http://www.manxradio.com/election-2016/candidates-2016-folder/james-hampton-rushen-2016/

 

Many have commented that he apparently only communicates with the world via his stupid democracy site or quasi secretive Facebook groups on the Internet (one of which has 5 members). It is a completely evasive way to hide from public scrutiny. There are, we are sure, hundreds of people in Rushen who don't manage their lives via Facebook or who want to sign up and give their personal data and email address to his democracy site just to have the chance to engage in dialogue.

 

It looks like the case of the Rushen Howard Hughes. Sat in a bedroom surrounded by vials of his own piss communicating with the world via Facebook to avoid human contact.

 

 

 

Maybe he'll be releasing his manifesto later. It's over a month to the election.

 

 

I disagree with James Hampton on the issue of direct democracy, but what Weevil central is saying is complete rubbish.

 

The https://jameshamptoniom.wordpress.com website, though not a manifesto, contains a lot more information than most MHKs' manifestos. He's also been a prolific poster on the IOM News and Politics page (which is a public group and has 2,003 members) so his views and outlook are known to people online who are interested in politics and I doubt anyone not interested in politics would be moaning online that they can't find out anything about him. There is plenty of time left for manifestos to be written.

 

Not responsive to communication? If you go on https://www.facebook.com/jameshamptonrus/ you'll see on the right hand side it says "Very responsive to messages" and "Typically replies within minutes". That's according to Facebook, not something he himself has written. I imagine he'll send out leaflets with more ways to contact him or go door to door in Rushen.

 

If I lived in Rushen, I'd vote for him before any of the other candidates.

 

 

 

I disagree with James Hampton on the issue of direct democracy, but what Weevil central is saying is complete rubbish.

 

The https://jameshamptoniom.wordpress.com website, though not a manifesto, contains a lot more information than most MHKs' manifestos. He's also been a prolific poster on the IOM News and Politics page (which is a public group and has 2,003 members) so his views and outlook are known to people online who are interested in politics and I doubt anyone not interested in politics would be moaning online that they can't find out anything about him. There is plenty of time left for manifestos to be written.

 

Not responsive to communication? If you go on https://www.facebook.com/jameshamptonrus/ you'll see on the right hand side it says "Very responsive to messages" and "Typically replies within minutes". That's according to Facebook, not something he himself has written. I imagine he'll send out leaflets with more ways to contact him or go door to door in Rushen.

 

If I lived in Rushen, I'd vote for him before any of the other candidates.

Protenscious twaddle. I hope it doesn't get printed into a leaflet - it will present the electorate with the pamphlet equivalent of war and peace. I wonder if he got a my Junior MHK kit as a child as a Christmas present? I'm all for direct democracy and democracy in action, this is nonsense, a complete cop out - what he is going to do, a weekly meeting and let the attendees decide how he should vote? Fantasy Island politics.

 

 

 

Evening all.

 

Scots Alan

 

Direct Democracy does work very well elsewhere in the world - Switzerland being the prime example. I wouldn't be advocating it otherwise. Doesn't mean it will work straight away on the IOM, especially as the population is so disengaged. However we are in a nose-dive at present so I figure it's got to be worth a go. Nobody else is proposing anything new as far as I can see. There is a direct correlation between the level of political engagement and standards of living in any society in whichever data set you want to look at, and if we don't get people to engage the end is almost certain for the IOM as it stands. By the time people wake up it will be too late, and we will be under the direct control of the UK after they've had to bail us out.

 

I'm not asking to be paid an hourly rate. I've said I would publish a timesheet and anything I earn form whatever salary I take home (whether enhanced or not) over the hourly rate I'm currently able to earn will be spent on improving democracy or given back to the community - however they decide. It's simply a point of principle, I'm not doing this for the money, and money will not effect my decision making. My business has years of work on the books and I'm quite happy to keep doing it, but if the IOM goes down the pan in the mean time I'm not much of a father if I sit on my ass doing nothing, or worse bitch about other people on the internet while doing nothing.

 

The pension is easier, you can just opt out I'm told. Again it's a point of principle, in the private sector my pension is my responsibility. I haven't got the brass neck to go in to Tynwald and pontificate about the pension crisis whilst at the same time making it worse. Better that I just take what I take and sort myself out exactly as I am doing now. Given that I'm only 35 if the IOM Gov ultimately defaults on PS pensions this might not be as dumb a move as it looks.

 

Not sure if you've mis-read my CV, nowhere do I explicitly claim 20 years of experience in the building trade (?) although given that I started knocking about on building sites when I was about 11 that's actually not too far off ;-) I started my own companies in 2008, all the other dates are listed.

 

With regards my main business (MTC), you are right to a certain extent. I did architecture first, then carpentry - which may seem illogical. To massively oversimplify the story I did architecture first and realised architects never get the buildings they design, because other people build them - and those people don't give a shit about architects. I'm a control freak, so I wanted to build my own. There's a lot more too it than that and I'm happy to give you the full story if you want it. You are right that my business has largely (though not exclusively) serviced high net worth individuals locally, and I agree I / the company should be paying more tax (although I haven't actually earned that much myself). In terms of return on taxpayer investment in me, my business is essentially unique on the IOM - there is nobody else who does what we do. We produce the sort of work which would almost certainly be otherwise sourced from the UK, so in essence everything we have done since 2008 has helped keep money in the local economy. It's not much I grant you - probably a couple of million £ over the last 8 years, but it's better than nowt and I'm fairly sure I've put back more than I took out in terms of local employment.

 

Thanks for your comments - I think you're on side. I intend on causing trouble if I get in ;-) I have issued another photo, however MR haven't changed it yet for some reason. This website has the latest version if you really want to see my hairy mush.

 

http://iomelections.com/2016/constituency_436840.html

 

I don't do suits, and I don't do professional photo sessions. If that looses me votes so be it - things obviously aren't bad enough yet if that's the case. Hourly rates - £25 / hr charge out for site work, £50 for professional (ex VAT) - take your pick - I was thinking 'on site' rate as politics is a craft not a profession ;-)

 

Declan & llap

 

Thanks lads. The model I'm proposing in the run up to the election is not the model I would prefer (see my Lisvane submission for my preferences - I can post a link if you want), however I cannot get to where I think we should be without starting somewhere, and I need to get people's attention and get in before I can achieve anything - which is why it's a bit rough and ready at this stage. Ultimately it should be the public who decide how it pans out. If they cannot be bothered then at least I tried. I have not published my manifesto yet - work in progress. I'll be sure to post it here when I do. I will be sending out an introduction card to every house in Rushen next week in the post (even those without registered voters - let me know if you get it Declan). Anyone who is struggling to find me online just has to put James Hampton IOM in to Google. First page is all me (I'm so popular ;-), or try FB or twitter - I'm not hard to find as you say. I've seen one FB post asking for the contact details of a number of candidates - which has been responded to.

 

gettafa

 

I won't be crossing anywhere. I've made a commitment to recall if people think I'm not doing as I say I will.

 

2112

 

Protenscious twaddle? I like what you did there.

 

 

Night y'all.

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" I have not published my manifesto yet - work in progress. I'll be sure to post it here when I do. "

 

How can anything be a work in progress 4 weeks before an election?

 

You're obviously too busy pissing about making a twat of yourself.

 

"I don't do suits"

 

Yet another line from Brewsters Millions that really is where you stole your whole campaign from isn't it?

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I won't be crossing anywhere. I've made a commitment to recall if people think I'm not doing as I say I will.

erm apart fom saying you weren't going to stand as an MHK and then did.

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Did everyone else receive Skelly's manifesto in the post yesterday?

 

After reading it does anyone else have an intense desire to punch him square on the nose?

 

Total snake.

 

Well, it didn't provoke a desire for actual violence.

 

But it was very woolly.

 

Even his business credentials seem a bit flimsy, before the Keys he did a bit of consulting, ran a bit of a mail order business, ran a few tours. So seemed to do well enough to support himself and his family but not really a captain of industry.

 

Although he's keeping it under his hat somewhat, of the four Rushen candidates the one with strongest business credentials is Scampy. And in fact,probably the strongest Academic record - an MSC from UCL in Development Planning, seems to be at least as useful in the Keys as Accountancy.

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Did everyone else receive Skelly's manifesto in the post yesterday?

 

After reading it does anyone else have an intense desire to punch him square on the nose?

 

Total snake.

Not being a Rushen voter, no I didn't receive it. But as for the intense desire to punch him in the nose...

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Even his business credentials seem a bit flimsy, before the Keys he did a bit of consulting, ran a bit of a mail order business, ran a few tours. So seemed to do well enough to support himself and his family but not really a captain of industry.

 

Although he's keeping it under his hat somewhat, of the four Rushen candidates the one with strongest business credentials is Scampy. And in fact,probably the strongest Academic record - an MSC from UCL in Development Planning, seems to be at least as useful in the Keys as Accountancy.

 

 

In Keys we had a scaffolder who, to be fair, ran his own company, but from being a simple scaffie he was elevated to businessman. Ditto fridge fixer, to businessman, sweep to businessman, foreman plumber to contract supervisor, painter and decorator to businessman etc. etc.

 

I suppose it is fair enough, we have to look positive, but it is still bollocks. The electorate are taken in by it, because they want to.

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gettafa

 

I won't be crossing anywhere. I've made a commitment to recall if people think I'm not doing as I say I will.

erm apart fom saying you weren't going to stand as an MHK and then did.

 

 

 

I don't think I ever said I wouldn't, just said I didn't think I would and I didn't think it was a good idea which to be fair it probably isn't. I've got lots of nice work I like to do, standing for election is a bit nuts. I've also got a heavily pregnant wife and I'm about to take the roof off my house this afternoon. I really did not plan on standing, but the IOM could be well and truly stuffed in another 5 years time and I didn't see any other candidates offering significant change.

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