mojomonkey 3,381 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 So you clearly prefer to be technically uncaring rather than actually uncaring? No, I prefer to not jump on ridiculous bandwagons driven by idiots. I'd suggest maybe they are just caring people who rather than sitting at home finding reasons to nitpick the constitutional relationship between the IOM and the U.K when it comes to immigration just want to try to help people. I'd suggest they're thick as two planks and jumping on a bandwagon started by a left-wing fanatic who also happens to be an anti-Israel bigot. Oh dear, a rant against anti semitism. We know who doesn't like any of that don't we? Other than you, who mentioned anti-semitism? I said he's a left-wing fanatic who is an anti-Israel bigot. Put it this way, I don't recall seeing him demonstrating when Ethiopian Jews were being persecuted and were seeking refuge and everyone in the world turned a blind eye except Israel. I still don't know who you're talking about, who is it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monkey boy 2,624 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 (edited) Don't know the answer to all this. On one side it would be lovely to take in some safe families and help them start there life again. As a civilised society we should be thinking of doing that. On the other hand we have no houses free and long waiting lists for the same. Bearing in mind we have a static population that becomes a massive problem. Also the schools are overflowing now with too big class sizes already and I'm sure there struggling to cater for the different nationalities. Then you get on to the health services and what seems to be a acute problem to get anywhere near acceptable standards of care in most if not all areas. I've first hand experience of waiting lists and even something like eye Consultancy is 2 years and mental health services .which you would imagine might be needed has a 8/9 months waiting list for physiologists . I'm sure there's many other issues . So what's the answer .I really don't know if honest but it's not as simple as just taking them in as to do that we have to be able to offer them a decent new start in life and it would seem we can't at the moment as we can't take care of our own. Maybe if we withdrew the overseas aid payment and used that to help some that would help but still doesn't get near in improving the lot of our ownI've never heard so much rubbish in my life. If we don't have sufficient social housing, if we can't afford to educate children or treat the sick then one of two things need to happen; either the Government need to spend less money on other things, or it needs to raise more money via taxation. How anybody could think that the best way to do this is to remove the food from a starving child's mouth is completely beyond me! We already give a pitiful amount to overseas aid, many times less as a percentage of GDP than most, if not all other developed countries and far below internationally agreed guidelines. If you think that we can't offer refugees a "decent new start in life" because of the problems you state, then I would go and live in Syria for a while and then see what you think. It amazes and saddens me that as a nation we are only too accepting of uncosted tax breaks for millionaires, yet think the concept of helping people in dire need, is a bridge too far. To be fair if your line of work wasn't dodging so much tax we could give more. Remember you told us all that. Told you all what? Edited September 18, 2016 by Monkey boy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
notwell 5,721 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 That you knew of people doing cash in hand jobs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oldmanxfella 3,184 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Cash in hand jobs sounds a bit gay. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monkey boy 2,624 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 That I knew people who sometimes get paid cash for the work that they do? Yes, I do my self sometimes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
notwell 5,721 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 No no. You were very clear and caught out. It was embarrassing for you given your soap box rants about tax and the finance sector (who's cash you are more than happy to take) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monkey boy 2,624 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Notwell's motto; If in doubt make it up. You're full of shit, I don't know anyone in my line of work who dodges taxes. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monkey boy 2,624 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 You really are a fucking beauty, I think you even believe your own imagination sometimes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
notwell 5,721 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 You said it and were pulled for it at the time. I don't really care but don't lie about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monkey boy 2,624 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 All I remember is you clumsily trying to make me admit that I knew people in my line of work who dodged taxes, you failed then and you've failed now. Please feel free to quote anything I've ever written on this forum (unless you conveniently can't be bothered.) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
notwell 5,721 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 It would take a week to plough through all your tax slagging shot and I'm too busy working, paying tax and keeping people like you going. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monkey boy 2,624 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 It would take a week to plough through all your tax slagging shot and I'm too busy working, paying tax and keeping people like you going. How convenient. Liar. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
notwell 5,721 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Every word I typed there was true. You're funny. In fact with all your about turns you should be an mhk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monkey boy 2,624 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Every word I typed there was true. You're funny. In fact with all your about turns you should be an mhk You're a liar, it's not the first time you've made stuff up. I think you need help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
notwell 5,721 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 (edited) Nope. You 100% said you knew people doing cash jobs. To be fair you never said you did them (I'm sure you never have done..) . You then tried to back track. It was a touch uncomfortable for you. But don't deny it. As I said at the time (and plenty agreed) someone who works in the building trade shouldn't be lecturing on tax avoidance. You should be on at the Villa as a fluffer for Al Murray on Wednesday Edited September 18, 2016 by notwell Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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