quilp 11,318 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 http://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/consultant-sacking-costs-manx-taxpayer-500000/ lessons learned etc Thanks. I have now found the full case and all I can say is WTF. ,https://www.gov.im/lib/docs/registries/tribunal/et1526ilhamyiskanderboughdadyv.pdf That makes quite sad and worrying reading in many respects. It is clear as day that the person concerned simply isn't very good at their job. Whilst i've worked with loads of people that are not great at their job it really isn't an option as a surgeon. This should have been nipped in the bud 15 years ago. It's really quite awful. I would imagine he is still working somewhere across too, which would be appalling. One of the methods used in the medical profession to move someone on was to provide a good CV for them to take elsewhere.I'm not saying that it is common place now but it certainly was, and Nobles has been in receipt of more than enough in years gone by. All Government workers should have a probationary period on appointment and also on promotion. They do, mostly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lxxx 5,826 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Anyone who can afford private health insurance and doesn't have it on this rock (or who can afford to go private when necessary but doesn't) is either very tight, very stupid or both.We do actually have some very good people at Nobles, and there are plenty of botched private jobs that fall back on the NHS to sort out. Main advantage of private is speed, and of course, time is often of the essence in health matters, but you still have to do your research thoroughly. I'm sure we do have some good people up there but I'd much rather do my own research and pick my own subject matter expert than get what I'm given. Health is pretty important. However each to their own. When you go private you'll often end up with the same consultant on island as if you'd gone via nhs. Just you see them as a priority. We've gone across twice in the past 6 months to see specialists that we've researched as standing out and recommended in their field. I'm sure there are good health professionals on the island too but during our research none of them stood out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vikingdoom 58 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Its all very well whingeing about waiting times to see a consultant, but please see it from their point of view. If people didn't have to wait, no one would be forced to go private and this would hit the pockets of these poor people only earning £185,000. There is no sense in reducing waiting lists because that would only reduce demand for expensive private treatments offered at the hospital. 2 year wait for a cataract or next week if you're willing to use your life savings. I know you may see this as cynical but its exactly what was offered to my mother 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dilligaf 9,448 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Anyone who can afford private health insurance and doesn't have it on this rock (or who can afford to go private when necessary but doesn't) is either very tight, very stupid or both.We do actually have some very good people at Nobles, and there are plenty of botched private jobs that fall back on the NHS to sort out. Main advantage of private is speed, and of course, time is often of the essence in health matters, but you still have to do your research thoroughly. I'm sure we do have some good people up there but I'd much rather do my own research and pick my own subject matter expert than get what I'm given. Health is pretty important. However each to their own. When you go private you'll often end up with the same consultant on island as if you'd gone via nhs. Just you see them as a priority. We've gone across twice in the past 6 months to see specialists that we've researched as standing out and recommended in their field. I'm sure there are good health professionals on the island too but during our research none of them stood out. Would be interesting to know which field you are talking about and what you judged the specialists on. We have some excellent specialists here. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
quilp 11,318 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 One being Giovanni Tabala who has turned around the colorectal debacle and provides a service of excellence. Changed my life that fella. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
notwell 5,720 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 It's interesting that Lxxx is a specialist on specialists. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
notwell 5,720 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 One being Giovanni Tabala who has turned around the colorectal debacle and provides a service of excellence. Changed my life that fella. Well he hasn't stopped you speaking shite 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lisenchuk 4,501 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 One being Giovanni Tabala who has turned around the colorectal debacle and provides a service of excellence. Changed my life that fella. Like I said to LXXX, not all bad. In fact, mostly very good and hopefully continuing to improve as time goes on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forestboy 727 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Seems as though the podiatry service is now experiencing cutbacks or lack of recruitment. Has always been a spot on service in the past and very proactive for diabetes sufferers. Used to get regular six months check ups in Port Erin. Due an annual review last month but was told in August that I'd go on a waiting list. Rang again today and informed that now looking at appointment some time in new year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
woolley 19,199 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 (edited) One being Giovanni Tabala who has turned around the colorectal debacle and provides a service of excellence. Changed my life that fella. Mr Tabala is brilliant. Great manner. No nonsense investigations and diagnosis followed by cutting edge (no pun intended) surgical methods that are not so easy to find in parts of the UK. Cannot speak highly enough of this man; he really is exemplary. Don't know how we managed to find him, or who was responsible for bringing him here, but well done that person. Edited October 5, 2016 by woolley 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lxxx 5,826 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 (edited) Anyone who can afford private health insurance and doesn't have it on this rock (or who can afford to go private when necessary but doesn't) is either very tight, very stupid or both.We do actually have some very good people at Nobles, and there are plenty of botched private jobs that fall back on the NHS to sort out. Main advantage of private is speed, and of course, time is often of the essence in health matters, but you still have to do your research thoroughly. I'm sure we do have some good people up there but I'd much rather do my own research and pick my own subject matter expert than get what I'm given. Health is pretty important. However each to their own. When you go private you'll often end up with the same consultant on island as if you'd gone via nhs. Just you see them as a priority. We've gone across twice in the past 6 months to see specialists that we've researched as standing out and recommended in their field. I'm sure there are good health professionals on the island too but during our research none of them stood out. Would be interesting to know which field you are talking about and what you judged the specialists on. We have some excellent specialists here. Cervical cancer and paediatric dermatology. The latter issue Nobles admitted they were quite clueless about and as they only have access to a dermatologist on rotation here once a month, who doesn't specialise in the paediatric side, they seemed quite relieved to hear we were thinking of seeking answers elsewhere. The specialist we saw across said he'd been contacted by Department of Health here to act as their new rotational dermatologist as the current one was retiring and he was considering it. The former because Nobles had missed pre cancerous cells in two smears and as they'd hardly convinced us of their competence so far, and time was of the essence, we went across to get things moving and addressed asap as things were quite far progressed. Interestingly the consultant we saw said he'd seen a few people from the Isle of Man who had experienced similar issues and there was clearly an issue with their procedures in this area. As I said, I'm sure there are good people up there and this isn't a sleight on Nobles in general but in the two areas in question we deemed it best to seek alternate opinions elsewhere and I'm satisfied that we took the correct action in each case. Edited October 5, 2016 by Lxxx Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lxxx 5,826 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 It's interesting that Lxxx is a specialist on specialists. What a silly statement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ManxTaxPayer 2,130 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 What a silly statement. He specialises in them. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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