The Well-Manicured Man Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 What are the accusations....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwell Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 That basically our entire social services are the worst in the world, have set out to ruin families and the whole system is one rotten cover up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Well-Manicured Man Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Have you ever been privy to the interactions between families and social services, notwell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 12 minutes ago, The Well-Manicured Man said: What are the accusations....... they were witches. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Gay'n Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 59 minutes ago, Speak The Truth said: Oh dear! Does this mean the former social worker Mrs Piebaps is one of those identified by the report? Treating people with respect, respecting their rights and refraining from abusing and threatening them is something your wife and her colleagues have failed to do - resulting in the investigation. Now they are running for cover, going sick, taking early retirement or moving of the Island in order to try and prevent their behaviour and actions being exposed. Public servants my arse. Self serving, dishonest, repugnant abusers funded by the public would be a more accurate description of these parasites! Self serving, dishonest, repugnant abusers supported by Speak The Truth would be a more accurate description of these parasites! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 36 minutes ago, The Well-Manicured Man said: What are the accusations....... Feckin' hell, by the time you finish asking questions, you may as well read the bloody 45 pages 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Neil Down said: Feckin' hell, by the time you finish asking questions, you may as well read the bloody 45 pages and you still won't have a clue...... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwell Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 2 hours ago, The Well-Manicured Man said: Have you ever been privy to the interactions between families and social services, notwell? What does that have to do with it? You asked for a short summary. I gave you one. You asked about the accusations. I replied. As far as I can see I've saved you reading 45 pages and really you should be thanking me. Not acting like a nonce 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Well-Manicured Man Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 5 minutes ago, notwell said: What does that have to do with it? You asked for a short summary. I gave you one. You asked about the accusations. I replied. As far as I can see I've saved you reading 45 pages and really you should be thanking me. Not acting like a nonce I was just curious how you knew it was a witch hunt. That term infers that an accusation has been exaggerated or is untrue (e.g. "she turned me into a newt .......I got better"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Well-Manicured Man Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 P.S. I really would like to thank you. You have saved me an awfully laborious read. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 12 minutes ago, The Well-Manicured Man said: P.S. I really would like to thank you. You have saved me an awfully laborious read. Pity we can't say the same 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
censorship Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 20 hours ago, notwell said: "As I've said before, everyone will have their own point of view, based on whatever experience or understanding they have, but the truth lies within that report. This argument over who is right and who is wrong about the behaviour of social workers can be settled by simply publishing the publicly funded report" Which it will be. So where's the issue? The delay in releasing the report creates suspicion that it is being altered or that those criticised are being given extra time to prepare a defence or get out before facing disciplinary action. It was an independent inquiry requested by Tynwald which took evidence from members of the public, and yet government has decided its release has to be delayed and witnesses denied access to it until they've finished 'tinkering' That's the issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speak The Truth Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 How surprising to see Gay'n crawling out of the closet along with Piebaps.. Wonder what the connection there is? Sorry if anyone thinks my statement is homophobic, as is the case with everything I say that Gay'n doesn't like. For the record, as previously stated, I don't care if you are straight, gay, bi, male, female, orange, green, lean to the left or right politically, if yo are vanilla or a person who get of by sniffing horse shit. The only people who have any problem with the truth are those who have something to hide. Gay'n and Piebaps, this is a game of hide and seek you have already lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Thomas Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 (edited) On 8/25/2017 at 10:03 AM, censorship said: The delay in releasing the report creates suspicion that it is being altered or that those criticised are being given extra time to prepare a defence or get out before facing disciplinary action. It was an independent inquiry requested by Tynwald which took evidence from members of the public, and yet government has decided its release has to be delayed and witnesses denied access to it until they've finished 'tinkering' That's the issue. The independent report is neither being altered nor is publication being delayed, as has been said. The report first seen by the Council of Ministers will be the one which is published on October Tynwald order paper, the first available sitting of Tynwald since the beginning of July. Council of Ministers could not tinker with an independent report. To impugn otherwise is a slur on the authors' professionalism and integrity. Evidence was taken from a small group of families and I believe also the officers and politicians involved. Facts were checked with these people I understand. Government will lay a response and action plan before Tynwald in October 2017 alongside the independent report. Edited August 26, 2017 by Chris Thomas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Thomas Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 (edited) On 8/24/2017 at 1:31 PM, censorship said: I don't know if it is true that complete versions of the report have been given to social workers while being denied to those who gave evidence. Mr Thomas needs to comment on this as a matter of urgency I am assured that the very limited distribution of the independent report has been carefully controlled and is subject to the statutory confidentiality of Council of Ministers documents etc.. Edited August 26, 2017 by Chris Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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