JackCarter Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Such a "rich" society, yet food banks exist. Victorian times don't seem all that far away. Good if the Victorian times came back to the IOM maybe we might see - huge advances in basic infrastructure and road building - a huge expansion and investment into the tourist trade - massive investments into building cutting edge public transport systems - massive civic building programmes - the rich donating some of their good fortune back to help the poor - a sense that wealth has to be created and shared not kept to keep civil servants in jobs 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Are there any checks on the people who use it? Could be tax cappers for all we know. Some of those folks do like to hang on to the pennies. Yes there is..... Anyone requesting a food parcel has to undertake an initial interview with staff in order to give any additional help or support! - if required "Can you afford food?" "No." "Okay." "Got any foie gras?" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarne Posted October 23, 2016 Author Share Posted October 23, 2016 Slinky: I'm pretty sure there was foie gras there, quite a bit of Marks and Spencers goodies. They really do the best mince pies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Maybe a lot of people don't use food banks because the older generation are very proud; they'll go hungry and cold before they speak up and ask for help. Also, as Albert said, is the whereabouts of these food banks widely known? I assume one is at the Salvation Army Citadel? Also, there is a lot of charity being done by the churches for the parishioners and others. I think if food banks are not being used it is not an indication that people aren't going without food or that they're not needed. It's not just the older generation who can be 'too proud' to seek help when they need it, but I wonder if older people are a bit of a gap in the system. Most of those younger people who need this help will be in contact with benefits or other parts of the social services network and these are the sort of agencies that can refer people to the foodbank. But pensioners who are getting a regular pension won't have that sort of contact in most cases. The only times will be if a GP or other health professional picks something up and they usually don't have the time to go into the sort of detail that people may be reluctant to give at first. Charities such as AgeIOM may also help as well, but you can see how some pensioners may not know how to get the help if they face a financial crisis - an unexpected large gas bill say or something like a boiler or a cooker failing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Such a "rich" society, yet food banks exist. Victorian times don't seem all that far away. Good if the Victorian times came back to the IOM maybe we might see - huge advances in basic infrastructure and road building - a huge expansion and investment into the tourist trade - massive investments into building cutting edge public transport systems - massive civic building programmes - the rich donating some of their good fortune back to help the poor - a sense that wealth has to be created and shared not kept to keep civil servants in jobs TB Rickets Almost no health care No human rights WW1 Great times? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwell Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Such a "rich" society, yet food banks exist. Victorian times don't seem all that far away. 10 people a week using it on am isand of 85000. Hardly evidence of an epidemic of financial hardship. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwell Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Such a "rich" society, yet food banks exist. Victorian times don't seem all that far away. Good if the Victorian times came back to the IOM maybe we might see - huge advances in basic infrastructure and road building - a huge expansion and investment into the tourist trade - massive investments into building cutting edge public transport systems - massive civic building programmes - the rich donating some of their good fortune back to help the poor - a sense that wealth has to be created and shared not kept to keep civil servants in jobs What's a "cutting edge public transport system" on an island like ours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackCarter Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Such a "rich" society, yet food banks exist. Victorian times don't seem all that far away. Good if the Victorian times came back to the IOM maybe we might see- huge advances in basic infrastructure and road building - a huge expansion and investment into the tourist trade - massive investments into building cutting edge public transport systems - massive civic building programmes - the rich donating some of their good fortune back to help the poor - a sense that wealth has to be created and shared not kept to keep civil servants in jobs What's a "cutting edge public transport system" on an island like ours? I'd say the tramways, the cable cars, the horse trams, funicular railways and the steam railway were cutting edge at the time. Almost all of the stuff we still have left went in during Victorian times. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Such a "rich" society, yet food banks exist. Victorian times don't seem all that far away. 10 people a week using it on am isand of 85000. Hardly evidence of an epidemic of financial hardship. Well for starters there's a lot more than 10 people living rough in and around Douglas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 (edited) Such a "rich" society, yet food banks exist. Victorian times don't seem all that far away. 10 people a week using it on am isand of 85000. Hardly evidence of an epidemic of financial hardship.Well for starters there's a lot more than 10 people living rough in and around Douglas........ or sofa surfing, living in a guest house room or living in a small bedsit near the Castle Mona. Coupled with anIncrease in drug use/addiction and mental health services stretched ................. Tynpotwald has created a social underclass. Of course, these observations are swept under the carpet. There was talk a few years ago that some people on benefits received a pre-paid payment card to purchase food and toiletries. They couldnot use the card for cigarettes and alcohol. It's a good idea and is used in Australia............. would work well here, but some of the Tynpotwald loudmouths would poo-pooh it ........ civil liberties etc. Edited October 23, 2016 by 2112 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trumps Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Such a "rich" society, yet food banks exist. Victorian times don't seem all that far away. Good if the Victorian times came back to the IOM maybe we might see - huge advances in basic infrastructure and road building - a huge expansion and investment into the tourist trade - massive investments into building cutting edge public transport systems - massive civic building programmes - the rich donating some of their good fortune back to help the poor - a sense that wealth has to be created and shared not kept to keep civil servants in jobs Magnificent museums & art galleries? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 10 people a week using it on am isand of 85000. Hardly evidence of an epidemic of financial hardship. The headline on the Manx Radio piece is misleading - it's not ten people being fed but "Ten people a week are requesting food parcels", which will equate to more than ten people as some of them will be families or couples. But the main point to understand is the one I made one the previous page. They won't be the same people every week. Food parcels are mostly to help those in emergencies and usually only asked for once or twice to tide people over. So the number of people getting food parcels over the year will run into the hundreds. If that number is increasing, then it suggests that there are a lot of people on the Island who are worse off than there were before, whom a sudden bill or event, that could have been coped with in the past, now tips over into the situation where they literally do not have enough to eat. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackCarter Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Such a "rich" society, yet food banks exist. Victorian times don't seem all that far away. Good if the Victorian times came back to the IOM maybe we might see - huge advances in basic infrastructure and road building - a huge expansion and investment into the tourist trade - massive investments into building cutting edge public transport systems - massive civic building programmes - the rich donating some of their good fortune back to help the poor - a sense that wealth has to be created and shared not kept to keep civil servants in jobs Magnificent museums & art galleries? Absolutely the Victorians put us to shame in many ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addie Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Some people seem to really know their way around the benefits system, sometimes they're the ones playing it. Others haven't a clue what to do when you leave work to look after someone with a serious illness and you then lose those times from your pension pot. No-one mentions to parnets with small children needing 24 hour care that they can have the simple benefit of a stamp credit. This bounces onto your pension and can affect it very badly. People who have never worked a day know how to do things and those on a gap just don't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxcrabbe Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Shock realization. People on benefits know how the benefits system works. What has this to do with food banks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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