vikingdoom 58 Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 maybe the government should try this here instead of just building houses we dont need http://www.calgaryherald.com/vancouver+slaps+year+empty+homes+about/12372683/story.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Albert Tatlock 11,538 Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Actually...we need 2000 houses here priced fairly. A whole generation is currently out of the loop. And you expect that generation to pay your pension while you live in your own house? Not...going to happen mate. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Barlow Strada 121 Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 and you could tax empty hotel rooms and b&bs while you are at it. solve any housing problem especially in winter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tarne 2,511 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Vikingdoom, it would be a good idea and a stop gap measure but it can't happen, too many vested interests are in property over here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
llap 2,044 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Actually...we need 2000 houses here priced fairly. A whole generation is currently out of the loop. And you expect that generation to pay your pension while you live in your own house? Not...going to happen mate. Very true. The prices are just out of the price range of ordinary young people. Even those fortunate enough to manage to get a mortgage, have it as much as a noose around their neck because they've been taken into an inflated price system. A lot of people just pay huge private sector rents, or live in public sector housing. Instead of everyone teaming up to fight the deliberate inflation of our housing stock prices by self-serving business interests (it seriously has nothing to do with supply and demand; quite the opposite), we end up with many in the private sector hating those in the public sector, thinking the latter have it easier than them and that they're somehow subsidising it with their rates or taxes. It's a lie pushed by the political chattering class who are among the beneficiaries of this unsustainable and unequal economy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
llap 2,044 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 maybe the government should try this here instead of just building houses we dont need http://www.calgaryherald.com/vancouver+slaps+year+empty+homes+about/12372683/story.html I think we should do it in Strand Street commercial properties as a test trial. There you can see the perfect example of deliberately keeping shops empty rather than reducing prices, as they know this would have a knock on effect for residential housing, and then the game would be up for the businesses involved in the production and selling of new properties. As for the tax mentioned in the article, I'm not sure I'd support this in terms of residential properties --- not without a list of reasonable exceptions. I'd be more inclined to put a tax on slum landlords who refuse to keep their property to a respectable quality standard despite raking in huge amounts of money over the years. That is, if we can ever bypass the enormous power and influence over our elected officials by a certain landlords' association who have for decades blocked attempts to bring in quality standards. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
2bees 1,848 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 The lack of maintenance in Victoria Street is mad and dangerous. Filled gutters, palms and ferns growing from masonry & the clowncil chase private home owners over 'nothing'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ballaughbiker 1,812 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 I'm always very wary of an ownership tax. There are many reasons a home might be empty yet they always go for the easiest option = rich bastard so we'll tax them so we can be seen to be correcting all society's ills. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
woolley 19,198 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Property is way overvalued here keeping it out of the reach of young people. But which of us wants our own property to be worth less? That is the conundrum. I know a chap who complained bitterly about his kids not being able to afford a house, but when he came to sell he was insistent on not reducing the very high asking price. "I'm not giving it away!" It's like complaining about there being too many vehicles on the road - except yours of course. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WTF 6,050 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 maybe the government should try this here instead of just building houses we dont need http://www.calgaryherald.com/vancouver+slaps+year+empty+homes+about/12372683/story.html I think we should do it in Strand Street commercial properties as a test trial. There you can see the perfect example of deliberately keeping shops empty rather than reducing prices, as they know this would have a knock on effect for residential housing, and then the game would be up for the businesses involved in the production and selling of new properties. As for the tax mentioned in the article, I'm not sure I'd support this in terms of residential properties --- not without a list of reasonable exceptions. I'd be more inclined to put a tax on slum landlords who refuse to keep their property to a respectable quality standard despite raking in huge amounts of money over the years. That is, if we can ever bypass the enormous power and influence over our elected officials by a certain landlords' association who have for decades blocked attempts to bring in quality standards. the problem with slum landlords is they have slum tenants who given a palace would have it turned into a pig sty in short order. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cambon 1,004 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 I am not sure about slapping a tax like that on empty properties. However, I would be all for owners having to pay rates on empty property. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
x-in-man 2,256 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Do you pay water rates on an empty property? If not, why not? It rains on a property, lived in/worked in or not. Unless it goes to a soak-away it gets treated at other property owners expenses. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frances 363 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 (edited) Does anyone known the % of unoccupied dwellings on the Island - I hear figures of some 16% banded about which seems very high - the last census was supposed to reveal such details but it appears here that many did not bother to return their forms and all has gone quiet. Edited November 12, 2016 by Frances 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Non-Believer 12,841 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Does anyone known the % of unoccupied dwellings on the Island - I hear figures of some 16% banded about which seems very high - the last census was supposed to reveal such details but it appears here that many did not bother to return their forms and all has gone quiet. I know. Just had my letter wanting to know if I've got any unaccounted for kids. Next will be unaccounted for pensioners and unaccounted for working ages. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Numbnuts 1,203 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Do you pay water rates on an empty property? If not, why not? It rains on a property, lived in/worked in or not. Unless it goes to a soak-away it gets treated at other property owners expenses. All rates are payable as long as its fit for habitation. Doesn't matter if it's lived in or not. If no services ,gas electricity and running water and I Think hot water then rate rebate or zero rates can be given Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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