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And it isn't helped when the major site in Douglas closes on Sundays. A day when footfall would be higher than weekdays.

Yes in the winter when it's cold wet and dark and people have nothing else to do the museum is closed.

For a few weeks in the summer when it's sunny and people are out walking, biking, bbqing etc, it's open but empty.

 

Joined up government thinking

But don't you understand? That's how they are saving money. The civil servants will want extra time for working on the weekend which they can't afford to do so the decision is to close the place on the most likely day of the week that it would be busy from people wanting to come and see it. It's government logic.

 

In the UK most tourism sites will be run by volunteers or special interest groups not people earning £40k a year on triple time at weekends and public holidays.

MNH facilities are manned mostly by volunteers aren't they?
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And it isn't helped when the major site in Douglas closes on Sundays. A day when footfall would be higher than weekdays.

Yes in the winter when it's cold wet and dark and people have nothing else to do the museum is closed.

For a few weeks in the summer when it's sunny and people are out walking, biking, bbqing etc, it's open but empty.

Joined up government thinking

But don't you understand? That's how they are saving money. The civil servants will want extra time for working on the weekend which they can't afford to do so the decision is to close the place on the most likely day of the week that it would be busy from people wanting to come and see it. It's government logic.

In the UK most tourism sites will be run by volunteers or special interest groups not people earning £40k a year on triple time at weekends and public holidays.

MNH facilities are manned mostly by volunteers aren't they?

 

Pretty sure they're not.

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They have just advertised for a marketing position could be a tough job now they have raised prices. Saying that the salary was shit so they aren't going to attract a genius to the vacant job.

What was the salary?

 

There's a few in there on a ridiculous screw so I hear.

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Get rid of five F/T staff and keep the admission prices the same.

 

Doomed to fail otherwise. With fifteen compulsory redundancies in the longterm, and few visitors.

 

Fuckwit government pension preservers, that have just signed their own death warrant.

 

Tick tock.

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In the UK most tourism sites will be run by volunteers or special interest groups not people earning £40k a year on triple time at weekends and public holidays.

MNH facilities are manned mostly by volunteers aren't they?

 

No. And indeed most tourism sites in the UK aren't either. Smaller, often specialist, museums often are of course - as they are on the Island (various transport museums, the Leece Museum and so on) - though usually with more restricted opening hours than professionally run museums. But the staff in the sort of institutions that attract a lot of tourists are usually paid and mostly full-time. It's the only way you can ensure reliability in a whole range of areas.

 

Most museums and similar will use volunteers of course in ancillary roles, but for all sorts of reasons there are a lot of things they tend not to do. It's also true that managing volunteers takes up quite a lot of time for the permanent staff, so you get the paradox that some short-staffed institutions tend to have to cut back on the use of volunteers and especially on recruiting new ones.

 

You may be getting confused by the fact that many MNH staff at the seasonal sites don't work year round[1], probably only eight months or so. But they are still paid for their time. As to Sunday opening, the Manx Museum has never opened regularly on Sunday, presumably because of long-standing staff agreements for the basic security staff[2]. It's clear that the MNH management want to have Sunday opening at the Manx Museum, but there is clearly a lack of political will.

 

 

[1] Judging by the 2015-16 Civil Service Commission Report, there were around 42 such seasonal workers as opposed to 63 full timers in MNH. As with a lot of government information produced in the last year or so, the latest year's equivalent document contains much less information (nothing on salaries for example).

 

[2] The House of Mannanan and all the seasonal sites open seven days a week so this agreement must date back many decades.

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In the UK most tourism sites will be run by volunteers or special interest groups not people earning £40k a year on triple time at weekends and public holidays.

MNH facilities are manned mostly by volunteers aren't they?

No. And indeed most tourism sites in the UK aren't either. Smaller, often specialist, museums often are of course - as they are on the Island (various transport museums, the Leece Museum and so on) - though usually with more restricted opening hours than professionally run museums. But the staff in the sort of institutions that attract a lot of tourists are usually paid and mostly full-time. It's the only way you can ensure reliability in a whole range of areas.

 

Most museums and similar will use volunteers of course in ancillary roles, but for all sorts of reasons there are a lot of things they tend not to do. It's also true that managing volunteers takes up quite a lot of time for the permanent staff, so you get the paradox that some short-staffed institutions tend to have to cut back on the use of volunteers and especially on recruiting new ones.

 

You may be getting confused by the fact that many MNH staff at the seasonal sites don't work year round[1], probably only eight months or so. But they are still paid for their time. As to Sunday opening, the Manx Museum has never opened regularly on Sunday, presumably because of long-standing staff agreements for the basic security staff[2]. It's clear that the MNH management want to have Sunday opening at the Manx Museum, but there is clearly a lack of political will.

 

 

[1] Judging by the 2015-16 Civil Service Commission Report, there were around 42 such seasonal workers as opposed to 63 full timers in MNH. As with a lot of government information produced in the last year or so, the latest year's equivalent document contains much less information (nothing on salaries for example).

 

[2] The House of Mannanan and all the seasonal sites open seven days a week so this agreement must date back many decades.

I thought Manx Museum wasn't open on Sundays because H. B. Nobel who owned the property had a covenant written into the deeds that prohibited Sunday opening?

 

And last time I was in Castle Rushen (Sept) I saw at least three people with 'friends' volunteer badges on. One behind the shop counter and two walking around the display areas upstairs.

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They've really fucked themselves on this one. Visitor numbers are likely to more than halve in a year.

...but have they?

 

If a family of five present at the Mannannin, are they going to charge full price or recommend the family ticket, still priced at £20??? and encourage that they visit the other museums.

 

The price increases make the the inclusive ticket look like very good value.

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I thought Manx Museum wasn't open on Sundays because H. B. Nobel who owned the property had a covenant written into the deeds that prohibited Sunday opening?

And last time I was in Castle Rushen (Sept) I saw at least three people with 'friends' volunteer badges on. One behind the shop counter and two walking around the display areas upstairs.

 

The covenant story can't be true because the Manx Museum was used as the original Nobles Hospital till 1922, but Noble himself had died in 1903. So he wouldn't have the chance to put a ban on. I suppose it could be due to later Trustees, but I can't find any evidence for it. A lot of museums used to be shut on Sundays till fairly recently I think, due to a mixture of Sabbatarianism and saving money.

 

I'm not saying that MNH don't use volunteers, but they tend to be restricted in what they can do - mainly fundraising-related and meet-and-greet type roles such as guiding people around. This is fairly standard for historic sites.

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And it isn't helped when the major site in Douglas closes on Sundays. A day when footfall would be higher than weekdays.

On Sundays, people worship at the Church of B & Q and Costa, if the museum could achieve a fraction of the footfall of these places it would be worthwhile opening but it doesn't.

 

Special events, cruise ship visits, MGP sunday do not attract enough to make it worthwhile.

 

Many many visitors say the the museum is very good compared to their local facilities.

 

Better parking might help?

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63 full time staff? Is that true? What the hell do they all do?

 

Some of it will be the obvious visible stuff - gallery guards, reception, shop and so on and that will apply to the House of Mannanan as well as the Manx Museum which also has its Library and archives to be staffed. Then there are the professional curatorial staff who actually run the place. There are also less obvious people such as conservators to stop the exhibits from falling apart.

 

But as well MNH are a big landowner, so there will be people involved in managing and maintaining all their land and properties.

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