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On 11/25/2019 at 8:30 AM, Barrie Stevens said:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/25/get-brexit-done-reality-far-more-difficult-tortuous-european-union

Brexit day is just the beginning. We face many years of complexity subject to EU rules and influence. The above appears to include a lot from the BBC News website item and is worth a read..

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/25/johnson-sowing-seeds-of-biggest-brexit-crisis-yet-warns-sir-ivan-rogers

This worth reading

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1 hour ago, Barrie Stevens said:

Is it? He's an animal of the EU as his previous conduct demonstrates. Looks like he now believes that everyone apart from himself has it wrong. It does rather illustrate all that is bad about the EU. The options he offers are that you stay in or enter a state of vassalage. A good argument for abolition. 

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3 hours ago, woolley said:

Is it? He's an animal of the EU as his previous conduct demonstrates. Looks like he now believes that everyone apart from himself has it wrong. It does rather illustrate all that is bad about the EU. The options he offers are that you stay in or enter a state of vassalage. A good argument for abolition. 

It's worth reading only if you can keep an open mind about things and process them on merit.

So you don't need to bother....

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6 hours ago, P.K. said:

It's worth reading only if you can keep an open mind about things and process them on merit.

So you don't need to bother....

Says the most open minded poster on the forum. 

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On 11/15/2019 at 12:35 AM, P.K. said:

Only Republicans.

Don't lump them all together in an attempt to fool the hard of thinking.

Another Woolster FAIL....

You don't know much about the Democrats do you?

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1 hour ago, woolley said:

Says the most open minded poster on the forum. 

Quite.

Don't forget I'm constantly pilloried by the zealots like youself for staying in the centre ground where the excesses of both right and left are clearly visible.

There are none so blind....

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On 11/27/2019 at 12:54 AM, P.K. said:

Quite.

Don't forget I'm constantly pilloried by the zealots like youself for staying in the centre ground where the excesses of both right and left are clearly visible.

There are none so blind....

You actually believe it too.

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53 minutes ago, woolley said:

You actually believe it too.

Just business as usual...

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So not only is Boris threatening Channel 4 with pulling their broadcast license if the Tories win (after replacing him with an ice statue at the climate change debate along with Nigel Farage), getting told off adding Tory propaganda leaflets with postal vote deliveries, they are now in trouble with the BBC for using their staff in Facebook adverts.

There seems to be a troubling lean towards American style "dirty" campaigns rather than proper electioneering.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2019/nov/29/general-election-tories-threaten-channel-4-after-climate-debate-ice-stunt-live-news

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/fury-postal-votes-arrive-alongside-20980057

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/28/bbc-tells-tories-to-take-down-facebook-ad-featuring-its-presenters

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18 hours ago, fatshaft said:

Did you notice the number of votes in Scotland for unionist parties? And then there are those who voted SNP to try to keep the Tories from a majority in Westminster. I know quite a few. Also there are a lot who want to be in the EU but would not go for that at the expense of leaving the UK. By no means a done deal in the foreseeable future. I could see the result being similar to last time. On balance I think I would give her the referendum gracefully and say get on with it. Denying it only gives the Nats more leverage. I still reckon most Scots are canny enough to see which way their bread is buttered. If not that would be sad but goodbye and good luck. Don't get your arse trapped in the door on the way out. 

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