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unelected officials

 

You mean like PM Theresa May, sorry, the unelected PM Theresa May.

 

That's so stupid it doesn't even warrant a reply. Unworthy of you.

 

 

You moan about unelected officials, yet we are at the whims of one. You cant have it both ways.

 

you don't elect a leader, that's down to the party rtard....

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unelected officials

 

You mean like PM Theresa May, sorry, the unelected PM Theresa May.

 

That's so stupid it doesn't even warrant a reply. Unworthy of you.

 

 

You moan about unelected officials, yet we are at the whims of one. You cant have it both ways.

 

No we aren't. There is a duly elected PM and, it would appear, the most popular one for some time. Don't you understand the British electoral system? There are no presidential elections. Voters elect representatives and the leader of the party that can command a majority in the Commons is asked to form a government and becomes the PM. What's wrong with that?

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unelected officials

 

You mean like PM Theresa May, sorry, the unelected PM Theresa May.

 

That's so stupid it doesn't even warrant a reply. Unworthy of you.

 

 

You moan about unelected officials, yet we are at the whims of one. You cant have it both ways.

 

No we aren't. There is a duly elected PM and, it would appear, the most popular one for some time. Don't you understand the British electoral system? There are no presidential elections. Voters elect representatives and the leader of the party that can command a majority in the Commons is asked to form a government and becomes the PM. What's wrong with that?

 

 

I think it's his lack of real world knowledge coming back to bite him again.

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@ PK: Well it's better than usual. A point raised and presented without too much hysterics and abuse. I'm impressed.

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I see John Major decided to add a touch of realism to the status quo:

I saw that. What a load of bilge.

 

Major was Chancellor and then 9 years as PM and attended a shitload of Treasury briefings, EU summits, G8 summits etc etc and yet you know better than he does?

 

Yeah right. How those major investment portfolios must beat a path to your door to hear your sage counsel....

 

The attempts to diss Major did give me a good laugh though. In my daily paper at the bottom of a page was:

 

"Johnson hits back at 'moaning and droning' Major intervention

 

The Foreign Secretary insisted the UK will be able to strike a "fantastic" deal with the EU. He said there was no reason why talks should not progress at "full tilt" to secure a trade deal alongside the divorce agreement during the two year countdown etc etc"

 

At the top of the same page was:

 

"Brexit: David Davis urges Cabinet to draw up back-up plans for UK leaving EU without fresh trade deal

 

Cabinet ministers have been told to draw up rearguard plans in case Britain crashes out of the EU with no fresh trade deal.

Brexit Secretary David Davis has urged his colleagues to prepare for what critics have dubbed the doomsday “cliff edge” prospect of leaving on World Trade Organisation (WTO) terms – and hefty tariffs."

 

And sandwiched between them was this snippet:

 

Charlotte Hogg, the Bank of Englands new Deputy Governor told MP's yesterday that "Brexit uncertainty still posed a medium and long-term economic risk." she added "We are still uncertain about the effects...." (their bolding)

 

If they wanted to give the impression that they are floundering around imho they have succeeded beyond their wildest expectations...

 

Edit : woody2 grammar

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I think it's his lack of real world knowledge coming back to bite him again.

 

 

There's that smug position of authority I mentioned the other day...(which you and woolley seem to rely on a lot for putting me down).

 

May would never win the PM slot before Brexit (remember she wanted to ban porn until it turned out her husband was charging hotel porn movies to her MP account). And she is only "popular" (and even then with a certain demographic) because she is over playing the "Brexit is Brexit" line.

 

As soon as Cameron gave his intent to stand down, there should have been a general election.

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I think it's his lack of real world knowledge coming back to bite him again.

 

 

There's that smug position of authority I mentioned the other day...(which you and woolley seem to rely on a lot for putting me down).

 

May would never win the PM slot before Brexit (remember she wanted to ban porn until it turned out her husband was charging hotel porn movies to her MP account). And she is only "popular" (and even then with a certain demographic) because she is over playing the "Brexit is Brexit" line.

 

As soon as Cameron gave his intent to stand down, there should have been a general election.

 

Why? There had been a vote on a specific issue, the promise of which was a cornerstone of the manifesto. There had been an election only the previous year and most of those MPs are extant, just as when Blair stood down for Broon. The HoC is perfectly viable and parliaments are now for fixed terms anyway. Again, it isn't a presidential system so there isn't a president to elect. It is a matter of commanding a majority of members in the house.

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I think it's his lack of real world knowledge coming back to bite him again.

 

 

There's that smug position of authority I mentioned the other day...(which you and woolley seem to rely on a lot for putting me down).

 

May would never win the PM slot before Brexit (remember she wanted to ban porn until it turned out her husband was charging hotel porn movies to her MP account). And she is only "popular" (and even then with a certain demographic) because she is over playing the "Brexit is Brexit" line.

 

As soon as Cameron gave his intent to stand down, there should have been a general election.

 

Maybe you should be careful what you wish for. If by any chance they overrode the fixed term parliament statute and she did call an election it would be a landslide victory.

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@ PK: Well it's better than usual. A point raised and presented without too much hysterics and abuse. I'm impressed.

Like the post below then:

 

 

I see John Major decided to add a touch of realism to the status quo:

I saw that. What a load of bilge.

 

Major was Chancellor and then 9 years as PM and attended a shitload of Treasury briefings, EU summits, G8 summits etc etc and yet you know better than he does?

 

Yeah right. How those major investment portfolios must beat a path to your door to hear your sage counsel....

 

The attempts to diss Major did give me a good laugh though. In my daily paper at the bottom of a page was:

 

"Johnson hits back at 'moaning and droning' Major intervention

 

The Foreign Secretary insisted the UK will be able to strike a "fantastic" deal with the EU. He said there was no reason why talks should not progress at "full tilt" to secure a trade deal alongside the divorce agreement during the two year countdown etc etc"

 

At the top of the same page was:

 

"Brexit: David Davis urges Cabinet to draw up back-up plans for UK leaving EU without fresh trade deal

 

Cabinet ministers have been told to draw up rearguard plans in case Britain crashes out of the EU with no fresh trade deal.

Brexit Secretary David Davis has urged his colleagues to prepare for what critics have dubbed the doomsday “cliff edge” prospect of leaving on World Trade Organisation (WTO) terms – and hefty tariffs."

 

And sandwiched between them was this snippet:

 

Charlotte Hogg, the Bank of Englands new Deputy Governor told MP's yesterday that "Brexit uncertainty still posed a medium and long-term economic risk." she added "We are still uncertain about the effects...." (their bolding)

 

If they wanted to give the impression that they are floundering around imho they have succeeded beyond their wildest expectations...

 

Edit : woody2 grammar

 

Major was PM for less than 7 years, not 9 years. He's one of those establishment figures that confuse being around for a long time with the endowment of unerring wisdom, similar to Heseltine but not yet quite so bitter. I'd stop taking that paper if I was you. It's giving you a negative attitude. I wonder which one it is......... Really going to upset you if this all goes rather well isn't it?

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I think it's his lack of real world knowledge coming back to bite him again.

 

 

There's that smug position of authority I mentioned the other day...(which you and woolley seem to rely on a lot for putting me down).

 

May would never win the PM slot before Brexit (remember she wanted to ban porn until it turned out her husband was charging hotel porn movies to her MP account). And she is only "popular" (and even then with a certain demographic) because she is over playing the "Brexit is Brexit" line.

 

As soon as Cameron gave his intent to stand down, there should have been a general election.

 

Maybe you should be careful what you wish for. If by any chance they overrode the fixed term parliament statute and she did call an election it would be a landslide victory.

 

 

Which would most probably be blamed on using Russian pens in the voting booths.

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Jesus rmanx, that's poor for you. The PM doesn't matter, it's the party that matters. It always has been. There were idiots on the other side saying the same thing when Gordon Brown was Prime Minister (I'd almost forgotten about him) but my answer is the same.

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Jesus rmanx, that's poor for you. The PM doesn't matter, it's the party that matters. It always has been. There were idiots on the other side saying the same thing when Gordon Brown was Prime Minister (I'd almost forgotten about him) but my answer is the same.

Nonsense.

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Jesus rmanx, that's poor for you. The PM doesn't matter, it's the party that matters. It always has been. There were idiots on the other side saying the same thing when Gordon Brown was Prime Minister (I'd almost forgotten about him) but my answer is the same.

Nonsense.

 

Ahhh. He's back.

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(remember she wanted to ban porn until it turned out her husband was charging hotel porn movies to her MP account

That was Jacqui Smith wasn't it? Home Secretary in the fabulous Broon government.

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That was Jacqui Smith wasn't it? Home Secretary in the fabulous Broon government.

 

Good God. Don't tell me rmanx has his facts wrong. I can believe many things but I'm not having that.

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Major was PM for less than 7 years, not 9 years. He's one of those establishment figures that confuse being around for a long time with the endowment of unerring wisdom, similar to Heseltine but not yet quite so bitter. I'd stop taking that paper if I was you. It's giving you a negative attitude. I wonder which one it is.........

So I credited him for two extra years as PM. So fucking what. Diss him all you like but the fact remains he still knows a great deal more about the machinations to come than you ever will. Add to that he did down the party he had loyally served for so many years tells me he has serious concerns about the whole thing. Probably starting with the fact that it was his party that created this mess in the first place.

 

Really going to upset you if this all goes rather well isn't it?

Now you're being very very stupid.

 

You really think I want myself, my family and my friends to suffer a drop in living standards? Clown...

 

Perhaps you should stop judging others by your own particular and clearly self-centred standards.

 

I posted up that since the Coalition gov came to power A&E admissions for severe malnutrition had risen by over 60%. We should all be thoroughly ashamed of that. The reason it has come about is because this tory government shifted money from the Social Care budget into the NHS budget whilst at the same time underfunding them both. John Major, to me, made a very telling point. That is the simple fact that a drop in living standards hits the poor and most vulnerable first.

 

As we are currently seeing with the welfare cuts by IDS and others making a bad situation worse. The Institute For Fiscal Studies estimates that their welfare cuts will add nearly a million more children to the number of those living in poverty. A total of over 5 million by 2021 FFS!

 

But they probably live in families who don't vote tory so fuck 'em a la Margaret Thatcher....

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