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so the snp cunts cult dont want to join the eu after all, another win for methumbsup.gif

 

 

 

It's so weird, a party that has inspired a nation to follow it like no other in living memory in the UK due to it's positive message and positive policies that actually put public services first rather than giving billionaires and big business tax cuts, has gotten this "reputation" among wankers that it's a cult?

 

Just maybe, people are seeing it for what it is, a genuine people's party?

 

Anyway, the pish you're referencing is a story in the Telegraph, only the Telegraph, a paper renowned of course for it's stand on countries self governing whatever.gif

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i was at a business forum in london last week, they had a snp msp giving a speech who said they had a fully costed plan   my question was-   how will you fund the 70% of lost income from the UK? h

It's interesting, there is very little willingness on the part of Remain supporters to acknowledge there was a philosophical or political justification for wanting to leave.  Freggyragh's post exempli

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@Freggaragh - The second biggest economy in the EU, whose stock exchange is hovering at around its all time high, who has a history of trade links world wide has decided to leave the EU.

 

The remaining countries are crapping themselves.

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It's certainly a lose - lose scenario.

 

The UK is Europe's second biggest economy, just, (third or fourth without Scotland and NI?). A lot of that is foreign business traded on the London Stock exchange and that will simply leave if the negotiations don't allow access to the largest free-trade market in the world.

 

The FTSE 100 closed today at 7,368. Exactly the same value as it was the day before the referendum. Sadly, the pound was worth $1.46 the day before the referendum, and is now worth $1.23 - so in real terms it's 16% loss.

 

The UK's debt is over 90% of GDP. Debt in itself isn't such a bad thing, especially as interest rates are so low, provided you have borrowed to invest in the future. Some countries in the Far East borrow heavily because they invest a lot in infrastructure and education because they know it will pay off in the future. The UK doesn't. The UK hides public debt with ppp schemes or by getting new power stations built by bringing in state companies from other countries and guaranteeing future electricity prices. On top of that, private debt in the UK is still sky high.

 

It wouldn't be so scary if British universities and R&D departments were cutting edge, but they're not - hence the point about new patents. Woody2, you don't have enough English to understand the how to use 'your', so I'm not surprised the value of intellectual property rights is beyond your comprehension. I'm not desperate, but I am very worried. Like all human institutions the EU has its flaws. Its agricultural and fishing policies and single currency aspirations have been very, very bad. Nevertheless, on the balance, membership of the EU has been very beneficial to the UK. Now the UK will have no say on international trading standards and no clout when negotiating trade terms with countries that, in many cases, have deep-rooted historical grievances.

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It's certainly a lose - lose scenario.

It isn't. All of the business that goes on now will still go on afterwards. The business community will see to it. All that is being ditched is the Brussels bureaucracy. Nobody signed up for a superstate. Why did we find ourselves in the middle of one when we were told it was just a trading bloc? This is about taking back control that should never have been ceded. The EU has nothing to bring to the table. What a strange club it is when the only reason to stay is the punishment it might mete out if you leave.

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1. Business will not be the same as before.

 

2. The bureaucracy you talk of is actually regulation. Regulation that ensure high standards of living, worker and consumer protection and fair trade. When we sell into a foreign market we have to meet their standards. The UK will now have to give regulatory powers to the British Standards Institute (kitemark) for the domestic market and yet still have to match whatever standards export markets require, but without any lobbying power within the regulatory body.

 

Also, I'm afraid, if you've never been involved in importing from, or exporting to, foreign markets you're going to find the bureaucracy involved pretty eye-watering. Think of the extra bureaucratic hassle of travelling outside the EU. (Eg; the paperwork and the long queues) - Brexit doesn't just mean that level of bureaucracy for personally, but for British exporting and importing companies too.

 

Then, there's also the reality that means, simply put, the smaller market will struggle compete when selling to the bigger market. Back before the trade agreements in place now, other countries could delay entry of foreign goods by; requiring testing that took years, by locating the testing labs in extremely inconvenient places, by subsidising competing products, slapping import quotas on competing products or just banning foreign products on spurious grounds. Brexit means UK exporters will have very limited recourse to the EU regulator.

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It's certainly a lose - lose scenario.

It isn't. All of the business that goes on now will still go on afterwards. The business community will see to it. All that is being ditched is the Brussels bureaucracy. Nobody signed up for a superstate. Why did we find ourselves in the middle of one when we were told it was just a trading bloc? This is about taking back control that should never have been ceded. The EU has nothing to bring to the table. What a strange club it is when the only reason to stay is the punishment it might mete out if you leave.

 

We're back on topic talking about #scotref now right?

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so the snp cunts cult dont want to join the eu after all, another win for methumbsup.gif

 

 

 

It's so weird, a party that has inspired a nation to follow it like no other in living memory in the UK due to it's positive message and positive policies that actually put public services first rather than giving billionaires and big business tax cuts, has gotten this "reputation" among wankers that it's a cult?

 

Just maybe, people are seeing it for what it is, a genuine people's party?

 

Anyway, the pish you're referencing is a story in the Telegraph, only the Telegraph, a paper renowned of course for it's stand on countries self governing whatever.gif

 

so scotland doesn't need the extra funding? why is the snp telling people that benefits will go up after independence when they have full control now? they are just full of shit.....

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It's certainly a lose - lose scenario.

It isn't. All of the business that goes on now will still go on afterwards. The business community will see to it. All that is being ditched is the Brussels bureaucracy. Nobody signed up for a superstate. Why did we find ourselves in the middle of one when we were told it was just a trading bloc? This is about taking back control that should never have been ceded. The EU has nothing to bring to the table. What a strange club it is when the only reason to stay is the punishment it might mete out if you leave.

 

We're back on topic talking about #scotref now right?

 

Er. No. UK throws billions into the EU black hole. It performs a similar service to Scotland but the difference is that Scotland has been a part of a hugely successful coherent union for 300 years, is part of the British family of peoples having a shared history and taken a full part in the former British Empire. Not everyone in Scotland who votes SNP wants independence and not everyone who votes SNP is against Brexit. Let Nippy have her vote. She's on a sticky wicket. If Scotland leaves the UK it also leaves the largesse of the English taxpayer. Total opposite of the UK leaving the EU. The result will be to stay in the UK by a wider margin than last time.

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1. Business will not be the same as before.

 

2. The bureaucracy you talk of is actually regulation. Regulation that ensure high standards of living, worker and consumer protection and fair trade. When we sell into a foreign market we have to meet their standards. The UK will now have to give regulatory powers to the British Standards Institute (kitemark) for the domestic market and yet still have to match whatever standards export markets require, but without any lobbying power within the regulatory body.

 

Also, I'm afraid, if you've never been involved in importing from, or exporting to, foreign markets you're going to find the bureaucracy involved pretty eye-watering. Think of the extra bureaucratic hassle of travelling outside the EU. (Eg; the paperwork and the long queues) - Brexit doesn't just mean that level of bureaucracy for personally, but for British exporting and importing companies too.

 

Then, there's also the reality that means, simply put, the smaller market will struggle compete when selling to the bigger market. Back before the trade agreements in place now, other countries could delay entry of foreign goods by; requiring testing that took years, by locating the testing labs in extremely inconvenient places, by subsidising competing products, slapping import quotas on competing products or just banning foreign products on spurious grounds. Brexit means UK exporters will have very limited recourse to the EU regulator.

most of the eu regs are taken from BSI, eu regs will only apply to exports which is very little of uk trade, in the last 20 years eu red tape has cost the uk over 1 trillion

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It's certainly a lose - lose scenario.

It isn't. All of the business that goes on now will still go on afterwards. The business community will see to it. All that is being ditched is the Brussels bureaucracy. Nobody signed up for a superstate. Why did we find ourselves in the middle of one when we were told it was just a trading bloc? This is about taking back control that should never have been ceded. The EU has nothing to bring to the table. What a strange club it is when the only reason to stay is the punishment it might mete out if you leave.

 

We're back on topic talking about #scotref now right?

 

Er. No. UK throws billions into the EU black hole. It performs a similar service to Scotland but the difference is that Scotland has been a part of a hugely successful coherent union for 300 years, is part of the British family of peoples having a shared history and taken a full part in the former British Empire. Not everyone in Scotland who votes SNP wants independence and not everyone who votes SNP is against Brexit. Let Nippy have her vote. She's on a sticky wicket. If Scotland leaves the UK it also leaves the largesse of the English taxpayer. Total opposite of the UK leaving the EU. The result will be to stay in the UK by a wider margin than last time.

 

spain gets mentioned alot with regards to a independent scotland joining the eu, bavaria looks like a bigger problem....

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The Queen has given her assent. ARE WE BREXITING PEOPLE?!?! ARE WE GONNA FINALLY DO IT?!?!! PARTTYYYYYYY

(I wanted to remain, but I've changed my mind because of all the fucking whining)

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