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2 hours ago, Non-Believer said:

ETA. I am I right in thinking that the new owners of the Waterloo Rd Methodist Church have their own ambitions for a community and exhibition centre? A bit of unwelcome competition?

No idea

I know there was an attempt previously to raise funds to make it into a music and community centre but that failed.

Unsure what the new private owner wishes (or will be able) to do with the place

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Ramsey court house would make an ideal residence for the new Lt Governor. The current Government House could be converted into a centre for victims of sexual assaults and provide extra space for an expanded mental health service.

 

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The courthouse, as has been pointed out from the outset, is far too small to be an effective community space. This has been a decision made on heartstrings, rather than effective and efficient financial prudence. It was poor practice and bad judgement. If we wanted a big ‘indoor if wet’ venue, the old Methodist Church was where the money needed to go.

At every level within the governance of this island, we really do need to wake up and immediately realize exactly where we are at this moment at time. Money is being spaffed at a faster rate than ever, the public sector is bigger than ever, and receipts are not healthy.

lets just get rid of it, take the hit and move on.

 

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13 minutes ago, Derek Flint said:

The courthouse, as has been pointed out from the outset, is far too small to be an effective community space. This has been a decision made on heartstrings, rather than effective and efficient financial prudence. It was poor practice and bad judgement. If we wanted a big ‘indoor if wet’ venue, the old Methodist Church was where the money needed to go.

At every level within the governance of this island, we really do need to wake up and immediately realize exactly where we are at this moment at time. Money is being spaffed at a faster rate than ever, the public sector is bigger than ever, and receipts are not healthy.

lets just get rid of it, take the hit and move on.

 

I don't think you have any concept of the state of the old Methodist Church

You're putting your own bias spin onto a series of factual events to suit your narrative, this is not a basis to have a reasoned discussion as your position is entrenched and you are casting opinion on other peoples actions

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32 minutes ago, Derek Flint said:

The courthouse, as has been pointed out from the outset, is far too small to be an effective community space. This has been a decision made on heartstrings, rather than effective and efficient financial prudence. It was poor practice and bad judgement. If we wanted a big ‘indoor if wet’ venue, the old Methodist Church was where the money needed to go.

At every level within the governance of this island, we really do need to wake up and immediately realize exactly where we are at this moment at time. Money is being spaffed at a faster rate than ever, the public sector is bigger than ever, and receipts are not healthy.

lets just get rid of it, take the hit and move on.

 

But didn’t government offload it to RTC at reduced price so suppose it’s just same money going around except Ramsey ratepayers will foot bill eventually 

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What is the state of the old Methodist church? I was in there recently and couldn't see a lot wrong from a layman's point of view?

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37 minutes ago, Derek Flint said:

The courthouse, as has been pointed out from the outset, is far too small to be an effective community space. This has been a decision made on heartstrings, rather than effective and efficient financial prudence. It was poor practice and bad judgement. If we wanted a big ‘indoor if wet’ venue, the old Methodist Church was where the money needed to go.

At every level within the governance of this island, we really do need to wake up and immediately realize exactly where we are at this moment at time. Money is being spaffed at a faster rate than ever, the public sector is bigger than ever, and receipts are not healthy.

lets just get rid of it, take the hit and move on.

 

It's the perfect size for a drive through Nando's.

 

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36 minutes ago, Banker said:

But didn’t government offload it to RTC at reduced price so suppose it’s just same money going around except Ramsey ratepayers will foot bill eventually 

The DHA sold it, but not at a reduced price.  I was one of those 'money-saving' operations that end up costing more than they save across government, but someone still gets a pat on the back.  Ramsey were more or less forced to buy it to protect the whole site (it wasn't just the building they bought).

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2 hours ago, Rhumsaa said:

I don't think you have any concept of the state of the old Methodist Church

You're putting your own bias spin onto a series of factual events to suit your narrative, this is not a basis to have a reasoned discussion as your position is entrenched and you are casting opinion on other peoples actions

Au contraire, Blackadder.

I worked for the cops when the renovations were done to the courthouse, so I know what it was cut back to. I also know what wasn’t done, and what the actual usability of the space was. It is not a big venue, and would need considerable reworking not least in the scope of fire precautions use it for any mass gatherings. 

I made in depth inquiries into the Methodist Church for possible conversion to a distillery. Part of this unearthed the extent of the surveying done by the Methodist Church Organisation. The building was fundamentally sound, and offers two floors - the upper serviced by a lift, which were already able to receive congregations. If we truly were looking for a community space, it won hands down on every criteria. 

I don’t have a ‘narrative’, Nor a bias. I’m just rather fed up of watching a Commission fail to get a grip on public spending, maintain efficIency and make sound, evidence based decisions rather than knee jerking to the shouty minority. I’m still at a loss to see how there could be any justification to purchasing the courthouse other than ‘it looks nice and we are worried someone will spoil it’. 

 

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13 minutes ago, Derek Flint said:

Au contraire, Blackadder.

I worked for the cops when the renovations were done to the courthouse, so I know what it was cut back to. I also know what wasn’t done, and what the actual usability of the space was. It is not a big venue, and would need considerable reworking not least in the scope of fire precautions use it for any mass gatherings. 

I made in depth inquiries into the Methodist Church for possible conversion to a distillery. Part of this unearthed the extent of the surveying done by the Methodist Church Organisation. The building was fundamentally sound, and offers two floors - the upper serviced by a lift, which were already able to receive congregations. If we truly were looking for a community space, it won hands down on every criteria. 

I don’t have a ‘narrative’, Nor a bias. I’m just rather fed up of watching a Commission fail to get a grip on public spending, maintain efficIency and make sound, evidence based decisions rather than knee jerking to the shouty minority. I’m still at a loss to see how there could be any justification to purchasing the courthouse other than ‘it looks nice and we are worried someone will spoil it’. 

 

Who, in their right mind, apart from you, would try to turn a Methodist church , you know the ones who don’t drink and are very anti drinking, into a effing distillery ? How insulting to the church. Sometimes I can not believe what you post.

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