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1 hour ago, John Wright said:

It’s a McGreggor. We all know what happened last time we had one of those.

The breezy day and it went a bit sinky?

 

It was just a comment on the Ships of Mann Facebook page that the one being installed is different to the one on all the renderings.

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29 minutes ago, 0bserver said:

The breezy day and it went a bit sinky?

 

It was just a comment on the Ships of Mann Facebook page that the one being installed is different to the one on all the renderings.

Artist’s impression. The actual link span is delivered and on site waiting installation 

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1 hour ago, John Wright said:

It’s a McGreggor. We all know what happened last time we had one of those.

My understanding is we have moved away from the tried and tested floating link span that has proved successful on the Mersey for years , and opted for a hydraulic system ,   maybe this is why its going to cost so much ,  the design fees must be multi million , it would be good to see a breakdown of the initial costs ,and compare it with what is happening now , it will be £100 before its finished ,  no freight ,no winter operation  ,  no access after 10-45 in the evening  and a bloody long walk to the pier head , and liver buildings ,

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16 minutes ago, Omobono said:

My understanding is we have moved away from the tried and tested floating link span that has proved successful on the Mersey for years , and opted for a hydraulic system ,   maybe this is why its going to cost so much ,  the design fees must be multi million , it would be good to see a breakdown of the initial costs ,and compare it with what is happening now , it will be £100 before its finished ,  no freight ,no winter operation  ,  no access after 10-45 in the evening  and a bloody long walk to the pier head , and liver buildings ,

But it will be shiny and that's all that matters.

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19 minutes ago, Omobono said:

My understanding is we have moved away from the tried and tested floating link span that has proved successful on the Mersey for years , and opted for a hydraulic system ,   maybe this is why its going to cost so much ,  the design fees must be multi million , it would be good to see a breakdown of the initial costs ,and compare it with what is happening now , it will be £100 before its finished ,  no freight ,no winter operation  ,  no access after 10-45 in the evening  and a bloody long walk to the pier head , and liver buildings ,

The big unspoken is the on-costs.

how do they envisage staffing it?

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It's still in Liverpool though! If it were in the Med it might be worth it!

 

Derek, they'll re-deploy all the CS they are going to get rid of.

Best put your name down? You get a hat and a hi vis tabbard!

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Just four winter sailings a week out of the new terminal predicted by one of the local papers last week?

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....but isn't the Liverpool route dependent on the shopping/football traffic? So, sat n sunday should suffice?

Should we spend millions of our own money to support Liverpools economy?

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2 hours ago, Non-Believer said:

Just four winter sailings a week out of the new terminal predicted by one of the local papers last week?

Four return sailings IOM - UK in total would be enough thought the winter. 

Never mind the 13 returns that actually run.

Might get the Steam Packet back into profitability.

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9 hours ago, 0bserver said:

Four return sailings IOM - UK in total would be enough thought the winter. 

Never mind the 13 returns that actually run.

Might get the Steam Packet back into profitability.

That totally ignores the nature of the service and origins of the Steam Packet. It’s to provide a reliable frequent service for residents. It also ignores modern supply chain logistics for shops and supermarkets.

Most of all it ignores that losses in 20/21 and 21/22 were due to exceptional circumstances that have now resolved.

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14 hours ago, Omobono said:

My understanding is we have moved away from the tried and tested floating link span that has proved successful on the Mersey for years , and opted for a hydraulic system ,   maybe this is why its going to cost so much ,  the design fees must be multi million , it would be good to see a breakdown of the initial costs ,and compare it with what is happening now , it will be £100 before its finished ,  no freight ,no winter operation  ,  no access after 10-45 in the evening  and a bloody long walk to the pier head , and liver buildings ,

I'm no expert but I would have thought that the so called 'floating linkspan' is a nightmare. Its actually a pontoon with a levered linkspan IMO. A modern hydraulic linkspan with no pontoon would seem to be the more popular choice these days. Does it not make you a little bit more independent of the river level. 

Like I say though, I'm no expert and I am merely expressing a view. 

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1 hour ago, Happier diner said:

I'm no expert but I would have thought that the so called 'floating linkspan' is a nightmare. Its actually a pontoon with a levered linkspan IMO. A modern hydraulic linkspan with no pontoon would seem to be the more popular choice these days. Does it not make you a little bit more independent of the river level. 

Like I say though, I'm no expert and I am merely expressing a view. 

well we all know about the isle of man being leaders in technical innovation  lets just hope we have got something right for  a change , 

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The last time we had something, "cutting edge, something edgy, something new" (q/unq).... it was an airport radar....

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