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Taxpayers to dig for £20M for Liverpool Dock


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8 hours ago, P.K. said:

From Manchester we prefer Heysham because with the new spur road it's very much the stress free option.

The traffic through Liverpool can be so shit sometimes it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if the amount of fuel used between the two was similar.

I'll check it out.

Incidentally not sure of your 90% of passengers head south. Especially during TT & MGP where most of it goes East.

Please post up your source. Thanks.

It’s an estimate 

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Not even an "educated guess".

I often head to/from the south, but far prefer to use Heysham than Liverpool. As the VoR says, the roads through Liverpool are shit. Getting out of Heysham on the new link road is bliss, whether heading north or south.

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7 minutes ago, monasqueen said:

Not even an "educated guess".

I often head to/from the south, but far prefer to use Heysham than Liverpool. As the VoR says, the roads through Liverpool are shit. Getting out of Heysham on the new link road is bliss, whether heading north or south.

Not bliss for foot passengers though.

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11 minutes ago, monasqueen said:

Not even an "educated guess".

I often head to/from the south, but far prefer to use Heysham than Liverpool. As the VoR says, the roads through Liverpool are shit. Getting out of Heysham on the new link road is bliss, whether heading north or south.

Not bliss for train users either

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1 hour ago, The Voice of Reason said:

It’s an estimate 

Ah yes, a pure guesstimate. Or BS as it's known.

I would like to know how the costs spiralled so completely out of control from the original basis?

Someone's responsible for getting it very very wrong. What's needed is a Blamestorming Meeting...

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11 hours ago, Passing Time said:

Seriously, you’re a fan of corruption?

Not really, no, and nor did I say so. Mayor Joe, members of his family and his circle of friends should probably be in jail.

What I am saying is that there has been a clear pathway to successful development in that city from more than 20 years. 

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One thing that strikes me, for what it’s worth, is the opposition by a very vocal part of the island’s population, to nuclear power stations, and (understandably to some extent), the Sellafield reprocessing plant. But we are happy to sail to Heysham and get on and off the boat within I short distance of a nuclear power station. Just a thought 🤔

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9 minutes ago, snowman said:

Expected completion date is June2023

What comes first ? The Liverpool dock or the new boat from Korea. 100% my money is on the boat . And thats allowing the estimated 1 month for it to steam here. 

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2 minutes ago, Numbnuts said:

What comes first ? The Liverpool dock or the new boat from Korea. 100% my money is on the boat . And thats allowing the estimated 1 month for it to steam here. 

Of course the boat comes first!  Then the docking facilities in Liverpool, then in the Island.

Joined-up-thinking you see.

Not like it's been known a new bigger ship has been coming since the newbuilding contract was enforced in July 2020....

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12 minutes ago, snowman said:

The new boat will be going to Heysham so it doesn't matter if the boat is finished before the terminal 

Except the whole reason for the reinforcing of the berth walls, and the length of wall to tie up to, is to accommodate the new boat. ( 2 days a week, 5 months a year, if previous timetable patterns are repeated )

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3 hours ago, Numbnuts said:

What comes first ? The Liverpool dock or the new boat from Korea. 100% my money is on the boat . And thats allowing the estimated 1 month for it to steam here. 

That’s if those sailing the boat don’t crash, hit or sink anything on the way. 

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2 hours ago, John Wright said:

Except the whole reason for the reinforcing of the berth walls, and the length of wall to tie up to, is to accommodate the new boat. ( 2 days a week, 5 months a year, if previous timetable patterns are repeated )

Manxman will be going to Heysham in the summer. Has it been confirmed that it goes to Liverpool in Winter. The timetable isn't released yet

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