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1 hour ago, bonatti said:

There’s no doubt current operating hours do cause problems on occasion, especially when weather is bad. 

I may be wrong but I thought the restrictions on longer opening hours was down to (not least) the fire and emergency cover, or lack of.

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53 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said:

I may be wrong but I thought the restrictions on longer opening hours was down to (not least) the fire and emergency cover, or lack of.

Think  it’s a  combination of both. There has been occasions airfield has to shut due to ATC being out of permitted working hours. 

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3 hours ago, snowman said:

Potentially longer opening hours 

Biggest issue here too is there there's little to no separation in the workforce. If there's a COVID spread of any illness spread amongst Tower staff, we have a big issue, very quickly.

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53 minutes ago, Danoo said:

There isn't enough traffic to keep the current opening hours going.

Well quite.  And presumably longer hours would imply the introduction of a third shift, so it wouldn't just cost a few more hours here and there, but a cost increase of at least 50%.

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We need to reign in the empire builders, and turn the whole ethos back to being a well run , regional airport with limited passenger numbers. From the moment we started to think we were an international hub nothing but problems have arisen !

We have spent millions but have no more passengers and fewer flights ! The author of the 2006 report doesn't like to say he told you so, but he told you so LOL !!!!!

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Yep, totally agree. Even before Covid there was far too much chasing Easyjet, to no benefit. They didn't bring in any more visitors, as hoped, and because of their preferential rates the revenue has gone down, while costs to accommodate them, have gone up.

Amazingly, the talk of "corporatisation" hasn't gone away, despite it being a no-hoper even before Covid. There's certainly no case for that now.

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On 10/22/2021 at 10:59 AM, bonatti said:

Think  it’s a  combination of both. There has been occasions airfield has to shut due to ATC being out of permitted working hours. 

Well, yes. However, the current airport ATC staffing situation is very close to breaking point. It's fair to say that had COVID not come along and required airport closures periodically, they would have had to come anyway. The future is not bright either with staffing and training being a major issue to be able to keep the airport open for current published hours. 
That said, the talk of remote ATC may seem a sensible solution - Liverpool do it too for Doncaster in terms of Approach control. But, be careful what you wish for, farming out would very likely result in any issue with controller availability being unable to be easily resolved, and the airport being closed for days. That's before the initial outlay and regulatory hoops to go through have been considered..... 

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52 minutes ago, gerremonside said:

Well, yes. However, the current airport ATC staffing situation is very close to breaking point. It's fair to say that had COVID not come along and required airport closures periodically, they would have had to come anyway. 

it’s funny that now people are being asked to work at almost normal capacity again after nearly two years these sort of claims are being raised. It feels like nobody really wants to go back to being anywhere near as busy as they were before. 

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1 hour ago, offshoremanxman said:

it’s funny that now people are being asked to work at almost normal capacity again after nearly two years these sort of claims are being raised. It feels like nobody really wants to go back to being anywhere near as busy as they were before. 

Not sure what you're getting at offshoremanxman. If you're implying that the people in ATC are shirking work you couldn't be further from the truth. Due to resignations, retirements and no adequate replacements, the section has around 65% of normal operating complement. And have to be there, whether it's as busy as it was or not. Working at "normal capacity" is absolutely fine, if you have the numbers to support it. 

Bear in mind too, sickness since Covid has been negligible, despite having to remain open. That is fortuitous, but may not last. 

An interesting read here too about remote towers; clearly states ideal for one runway operations. The DoI have been trumpeting this last week or two how brilliant nit is that they've completed work on the cross runway ( even if it is still closed...) . Another factor that would make a remote tower more complex and difficult to achieve.

https://www.nats.aero/features/one-size-does-not-fit-all/

 

 

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14 hours ago, offshoremanxman said:

it’s funny that now people are being asked to work at almost normal capacity again after nearly two years these sort of claims are being raised. It feels like nobody really wants to go back to being anywhere near as busy as they were before. 

Which, compared to the majority of the population, wasn't really busy at all. 

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