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1 hour ago, ellanvannin2010 said:

 

Presumably IOM govt will owe them money for flights taken as part of the patient contract.

I would not be at all surprised if Treasury paid the bill in full. Left hand/right hand. I would be pleasantly surprised if someone was smart enough to jump on it and stop the payment,  even if it would be against insolvency laws. 

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I think when most people hear of a contingency plan being in place the expectation is for that contingency plan to kick in immediately upon the happening of the event the contingency was planned for.

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32 minutes ago, WTF said:

i can;t believe it costs 300k  a month to land planes here.

I can. Question is, how much does it cost elsewhere?

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Operated by Saab 340  (produced until 1998)

 

34 seats each way 

 

Havent got the IOM departure times, but from LPL....as follows:

 

Depart LPL 0900 and 1800 Mon - Sat

Sunday depart LPL 1515 and 1800

 

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46 minutes ago, snowman said:

Operated by Saab 340  (produced until 1998)

 

34 seats each way 

 

Havent got the IOM departure times, but from LPL....as follows:

 

Depart LPL 0900 and 1800 Mon - Sat

Sunday depart LPL 1515 and 1800

 

Departs IOM 07:45 Mon - Sat

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How many seats likely to be ring fenced for patients? Given that it's goingto be those attending appointments in both Liverpool and Manchester, it might be only 15 or so seats available per flight to purchase in the website 

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27 minutes ago, cheesypeas said:
1 hour ago, snowman said:

Operated by Saab 340  (produced until 1998)

34 seats each way 

Havent got the IOM departure times, but from LPL....as follows:

Depart LPL 0900 and 1800 Mon - Sat

Sunday depart LPL 1515 and 1800

Departs IOM 07:45 Mon - Sat

The trouble is that this doesn't even cover the patient transfer numbers.  It provides 204 seats a week same day IOM-LPL-IOM, equivalent to under 11,000 a year.  But we know that "the Patient Transfer Office books around 17,000 return journeys a year", according to a Keys answer last year.  Unless they start using the evening flights and put people up two nights till they come back on the morning return, there isn't the capacity.

I said earlier that we ought to wait till this week to judge the response to Flybe's collapse from the Manx government.  And it's not good is it?  Patient transfer should have already had a plan agreed (they claimed it had been) and they should have finalised and signed that on Friday, made a provisional announcement, spent the weekend sorting out patients and finalised everything Monday.  Instead we have to wait till questions are asked in the Keys on Tuesday and there still doesn't seem to be anything in public apart from that (what are all these PR people for?).

As to replacements for the other routes, you would have hoped that discussions would have started first thing Friday and through the weekend.  Instead Harmer seems to vaguely hoping that something will turn up.  Compare this with how quickly other places, such as Scotland and Jersey, have managed to get continuation of service.  There seems to be no urgency or even the ability to realise that they should look urgent about it.  It's not that they don't seem to be able to cope in a crisis, they don't seem to realise there is one.

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56 minutes ago, snowman said:

How many seats likely to be ring fenced for patients? Given that it's goingto be those attending appointments in both Liverpool and Manchester, it might be only 15 or so seats available per flight to purchase in the website 

Unless they have managed to arrange more appointments on Island in the last year- either by doing more procedures over here or more use of telemedicine, then there shouldn't be any spare at all.  The real worry is that patients requiring urgent treatment won't be able to get away at all, bcause all the seats will be already taken.

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