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The TT was running for many decades before they occupied their RTC house, so it's not as if something new has happened.

 

Apart from them no longer being able to watch from their garden.

 

 

Being made aware more every year about the dangers of bikes with increased speed and the chances rising rapidly of them being struck by a bike, or bits of it, or even the rider, should make anyone living on the racing line realise who how stupid it is to continue to watch from there and even more stupid to ask very publicly why they should not be allowed.

Totally unreal.

 

BTW the photo is a beauty. were they told to look as sullen as possible for the press fella.

 

edited to correct a mistake

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The TT was running for many decades before they occupied their RTC house, so it's not as if something new has happened.

Apart from them no longer being able to watch from their garden.

BTW the photo is a beauty. were they told to look as sullen as possible for the press fella.

Nope, they always look like that...

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The TT was running for many decades before they occupied their RTC house, so it's not as if something new has happened.

Apart from them no longer being able to watch from their garden.

BTW the photo is a beauty. were they told to look as sullen as possible for the press fella.

Nope, they always look like that...

 

 

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I was thinking the issue is a bit bigger than this one example but about official bods telling people they cant be where they want on their own property. You have officious marshals wanting to spoil your day on the very slight off chance that for the first time in over 100 years a motorbike is going to end up landing in your garden. The implication being it is deemed a real possibillity, and another official mouth saying it is as safe as possible but there are risks. So its ok to take the risk of travelling at 180mph + on a road but not to sit in your garden.......

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official bods telling people they cant be where they want on their own property.

But it is not their own property. It is the council's. I am sure there are loads of restrictions of what you can or cannot do when you rent a property. This is just another. If they don't like the rules they can always look to rent or buy somewhere else.

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I sympathise with these tenants, nobody likes being told what to do, especially if they've been doing it for years. It must be a bit of a pain living on the course, and to have the one advantage of so doing forcibly removed seems rather spiteful.

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Yes we do. As do prisoners, disabled and the elderly. You're more than welcome to try and get those rights removed but I don't think you'll be successful.

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It doesn't matter if they own it or not, the real debate is about whether safety can be allowed to override property rights at certain times.

 

There are innumerable private properties (mostly land bordering the course) on the island classed as unsafe during the TT/MGP.

 

If landowners are stupid enough to stand in them during the races, and stupid enough to allow their guests to stand there too, then there has to be safety legislation to stop them, when the risk has been assessed properly, possibly by two separate groups ACU and police accident investigators if there is a major dispute over the preliminary findings.

 

Just because something hasn't happened yet doesn't make it improbable. People are notoriously stupid at understanding risk and putting it into perspective.

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So the extension of that argument is that if this is a real and present danger to people, is it responsible for the Government to be sending bikes around the course at 180 mph?

 

RTC are assuming there is a risk. That risk is created by the government. Does this leave a liability?

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official bods telling people they cant be where they want on their own property.

But it is not their own property. It is the council's. I am sure there are loads of restrictions of what you can or cannot do when you rent a property. This is just another. If they don't like the rules they can always look to rent or buy somewhere else.

 

 

what part of bigger than this one example didn't you get?? I wasn't referring to this one example alone, or just rented properties, I heard in recent years that people sat in their own privately owned gardens have been told they are not allowed to be there by marshals, that was where I was wondering what the law actually is and whether some twatty marshal on a power trip can tell you to get out your own garden.

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Just because something hasn't happened yet doesn't make it improbable. People are notoriously stupid at understanding risk and putting it into perspective.

 

is that aimed at the marshals that stand on the roadside or the riders?

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"Landlord gets asked about house it owns" isn't really a story though.

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Just because something hasn't happened yet doesn't make it improbable. People are notoriously stupid at understanding risk and putting it into perspective.

 

is that aimed at the marshals that stand on the roadside or the riders?

No. It was aimed at spectators.

 

The marshals and riders understand their own risks, in as much as they control them, as there will always be risk, assessed or not, as risk assessment is always an ongoing process.

 

Marshals always obey the current risk assessments. Marshals are not allowed to just stand anywhere, and every position in every sector has firm written rules on that and the duties at that position.

 

Obviously risk increases when there is an incident, and marshals leave those positions to deal with it, but that's why there are rules, regs, procedures and training to deal with incidents, and flags to instigate the rules, regs and procedures that the riders must then obey.

 

There has to be law on safety, otherwise, taken to the Nth degree, you could have some mentally retarded farmer sat on a post at the edge of his field in any one of a few notorious TT accident blackspots.

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