WTF 6,050 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 It's a shame they cannot take a firmer stance when dealing with criminals.So Pava spray, batons and savage dogs aren't enough? Batons and dogs are never used on people and pava is a safer way of restraining people than actually fighting with them pava doesn't restrain, it disables Quote Link to post Share on other sites
finlo 5,130 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 It's a shame they cannot take a firmer stance when dealing with criminals.So Pava spray, batons and savage dogs aren't enough?Batons and dogs are never used on people and pava is a safer way of restraining people than actually fighting with them Pava spray sounds good to me. I don't see why the police should have to put up with such violence when they can just spray the twat in the face and watch him go blind. A swift kick in balls has a similar affect unless it's a bitch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dilligaf 9,448 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 "I don't think being clever [AKA knowing the law] with a police officer tends to end well." Okay, so we should just submit to their authorit-eh and accept we live in a lawless police state. Let's just throw out rule of law. Let's bring in Judge Dredd policemen who are jury and executioner. Why bother with laws? I think you're misunderstanding me, perhaps deliberately. I'm not saying you're wrong about knowing the law and your rights but surely you'd accept that for the majority of people arguing the toss with a police officer is unlikely to end well. I'm not saying it's right but that's the way it is. I am a huge supporter of our local Bobbies and they have my respect for the job they do. It makes one realize just how lucky we actually are here when you look at some of the thousands of videos on Youtube of policemen being total twats (on camera too) I have watched dozens in total disbelief at how little of the law some (English) policemen know. Untill I witness anything to the contrary, I will always think we have the best "Force" possible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gerrydandridge 570 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 I would try not to deal with a police officer as a police officer and a Police Constable are quite different, The Constable is there to prevent a breach of the peace, an officer is an employee of the corporation who intends to extort monies from you via the Acts and Statutes that he/she will contract you into via your own ignorance. First understand the difference between Lawful(constable) and Legal(officer), once you know the difference some questions that can render them powerless (If you have not committed a real crime that is), sadly many recruited these days do not know the Law that they enforce, so beware as they can get confused and sometimes violent, resulting in an unlawful kidnapping, if it looks like you have one like this then I would say nothing whatsoever, perhaps keep repeating "Sorry I don't answer questions" to everything they say to you. 1: Ask if he/she is acting under their oath (wont want to answer this one, but keep pressing it, a yes presents the constable, not the officer) 2: Ask if they have observed you breaching the peace, (There is no jurisdiction to do much to you lawfully without a firm yes here if acting under oath) 3: Ask am I obliged to give you my name or ID.(Its a no by the way) 4: Am I under arrest..(I doubt it) 5: Great then I am free to go, have a great night "Constable"... Unless you have done a true crime like theft or murder or cause some kind of harm then I find it is all commerce, i.e. commercial jurisdiction and the above is likely to stop you from being invited to a foreign vessel in dry dock..Just my take on it all and hopefully not too "off the wall".. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dilligaf 9,448 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 I would try not to deal with a police officer as a police officer and a Police Constable are quite different, The Constable is there to prevent a breach of the peace, an officer is an employee of the corporation who intends to extort monies from you via the Acts and Statutes that he/she will contract you into via your own ignorance. First understand the difference between Lawful(constable) and Legal(officer), once you know the difference some questions that can render them powerless (If you have not committed a real crime that is), sadly many recruited these days do not know the Law that they enforce, so beware as they can get confused and sometimes violent, resulting in an unlawful kidnapping, if it looks like you have one like this then I would say nothing whatsoever, perhaps keep repeating "Sorry I don't answer questions" to everything they say to you. 1: Ask if he/she is acting under their oath (wont want to answer this one, but keep pressing it, a yes presents the constable, not the officer) 2: Ask if they have observed you breaching the peace, (There is no jurisdiction to do much to you lawfully without a firm yes here if acting under oath) 3: Ask am I obliged to give you my name or ID.(Its a no by the way) 4: Am I under arrest..(I doubt it) 5: Great then I am free to go, have a great night "Constable"... Unless you have done a true crime like theft or murder or cause some kind of harm then I find it is all commerce, i.e. commercial jurisdiction and the above is likely to stop you from being invited to a foreign vessel in dry dock..Just my take on it all and hopefully not too "off the wall".. and I still find you a boring f***er. Don't you ever give up ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gladys 8,918 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Do you like a man in uniform, Albert? If he is holding a yellow lab puppy, I wouldn't resist an arrest. A fireman would do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Albert Tatlock 12,136 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 I couldn't resist one once.Ah Josie...PC 44...DD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mojomonkey 3,382 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 I would try not to deal with a police officer as a police officer and a Police Constable are quite different, The Constable is there to prevent a breach of the peace, an officer is an employee of the corporation who intends to extort monies from you via the Acts and Statutes that he/she will contract you into via your own ignorance. First understand the difference between Lawful(constable) and Legal(officer), once you know the difference some questions that can render them powerless (If you have not committed a real crime that is), sadly many recruited these days do not know the Law that they enforce, so beware as they can get confused and sometimes violent, resulting in an unlawful kidnapping, if it looks like you have one like this then I would say nothing whatsoever, perhaps keep repeating "Sorry I don't answer questions" to everything they say to you. 1: Ask if he/she is acting under their oath (wont want to answer this one, but keep pressing it, a yes presents the constable, not the officer) 2: Ask if they have observed you breaching the peace, (There is no jurisdiction to do much to you lawfully without a firm yes here if acting under oath) 3: Ask am I obliged to give you my name or ID.(Its a no by the way) 4: Am I under arrest..(I doubt it) 5: Great then I am free to go, have a great night "Constable"... Unless you have done a true crime like theft or murder or cause some kind of harm then I find it is all commerce, i.e. commercial jurisdiction and the above is likely to stop you from being invited to a foreign vessel in dry dock..Just my take on it all and hopefully not too "off the wall".. All complete bollocks that has been disproved many, many times in law. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dilligaf 9,448 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 I couldn't resist one once.Ah Josie...PC 44...DD Sorry Albert, but PC 44 is Jose. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebees 2,811 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 He has gone a bit Benny Hill of late 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thommo2010 2,101 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 It's a shame they cannot take a firmer stance when dealing with criminals.So Pava spray, batons and savage dogs aren't enough?Batons and dogs are never used on people and pava is a safer way of restraining people than actually fighting with them pava doesn't restrain, it disables Same difference my point is its safer than getting into a hands on situation for all parties 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the stinking enigma 11,913 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Gerry is always very polite in his posts, whether you agree with them or not, in part or in no part, you should always try to remember that dilligaf 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bobbie Bobster 3,422 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Arguably posting his rubbish for all of us to scroll past is not very polite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
llap 2,044 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 One post by gerrydandridge is worth a thousand by Bobbie Moronstar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the stinking enigma 11,913 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 He could say the same about any of us. We are all equal on here. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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