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1 hour ago, Fuller K Rapp said:

You think that this isn't having an effect on humans?

It's a drop in the ocean compared to the chemtrails!

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2 hours ago, Roger Mexico said:

From that answer I get the impression that they are compulsory, I suspect Cregeen would have stated so if they weren't.

You're more than likely right (though I'm not convinced by Cregeen's answers that he knew one way or the other!).  I'd love to see how a push to get kids excused from attending classes delivered by outside religious groups would go down

One other thing that struck me when reading the Hansard was this comment:

"opportunities for young people to explore key concepts around positive relationships and well-being, as well as other aspects of relationship and sexual health education, are included in PSHE programmes and RE lessons [my emphasis]"

Surely it's obvious that RE lessons aren't the best place for this, and that this isn't what RE lessons should be for anyway.  RE is (or should be) for allowing pupils to learn about religion and religious thought around the world and throughout history.  While that may well include covering various religious views on relationships and "well-being", to consider it an actual part of relationships and sex education is pretty muddled thinking since the emphasis there is on the religious perspective rather than the nature of relationships.

 

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Most people have no idea what they are really dealing with when their children are being indoctrinated by the organised Chrisitan Groups. They don't know what they believe for example. The Scripture Union is highly organised, very wealthy, and enitrey focused. They are 'dominionists' and fundamentalists.

As an atheist and a gay man I view the Scripture Union as a religious organisation with close associations and affiliations with other Christian extremist hate groups.

Of course the Members of the Tynwald for the most part couldn't care less who or what this organisation stands for, and they certainly won't take the time to find out.

The statement made by Graham Gregeen is typical for a Minister in Tynwald, like the Scripture Uniionists it is delusional. Of course Mr Baker belongs to the same religious world as the bible literalists in the Christian Union organisation. Here is the actual question and answer given in the Tynwald.

Mr Baker: Thank you, Mr President. 1125

Could the Minister confirm that, in response to the question from the hon. questioner around faith-based groups helping with relationship education in schools, there are no explicit religious aspects to that education programme; it is a programme, I believe, known as ‘Love Life’ which has gone down extremely well in secondary schools, in particular, and actually it is about relationships, not about religion? 1130

A Member: Hear, hear.

The President: Minister.

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The Minister: Thank you, Mr President.

Yes, Scripture Union deliver Love Life, but with no religion in it. It consists of approximately six sessions for year 10. It includes delaying sex and having stable relationships. When there are any outside speakers they are encouraged to make a written agreement with the school on content and delivery and a member of staff is always in the room.

I am posting up the link to the  Scripture Union accounts from the UK, the IOM group answer to them, and a small example of what they actually believe in,

http://www.scriptureunion.org.uk/AboutScriptureUnion/AnnualReport/3039.id

and what they actually are https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Theology

"What we believe"

“As the Scripture Union family throughout the world, we accept and proclaim the historic truths of the Christian faith, including the following: God and the human race

We hold that the Lord our God is one: Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and that he fulfils his sovereign purposes - in creation, revelation, redemption, judgement, and the coming of his kingdom - by calling out from the world a people united to himself and each other in love.

We acknowledge that though God made us in his own likeness and image, conferring on us dignity and worth and enabling us to respond to himself, we are now members of a fallen race; we have sinned and come short of his glory.

We believe that the Father  has shown us his holy love in giving Jesus Christ, his only son, for us, while through our sinfulness and guilt, we were subject to his wrath and condemnation; and has shown his grace by putting sinners right with himself when they place their trust in his Son

We believe that the Old and New Testament Scriptures are God-breathed, since their writers spoke from God as they were moved by the Holy Spirit; hence are fully trustworthy in all that they affirm; and are our highest authority for faith and life.

We confess Jesus Christ as Lord and God; as truly human, born of the virgin Mary; as Servant, sinless, full of grace and truth; as only Mediator and Saviour, dying on the cross in our place, representing us to God, redeeming us from the grip and punishment of sin; as victor over Satan and all his forces rising from death with a glorious body, being taken up to be with his Father, one day returning personally in glory and judgement to establish his kingdom.

We believe in the Holy Spirit who convicts the world of guilt in regard to sin, righteousness and judgement; who makes the death of Christ effective to sinners, declaring that they must now turn to Christ in repentance, and directing their trust towards the Lord Jesus Christ; who through the new birth makes us partake in the life of the risen Christ, and who is present within all believers, illuminating their minds to grasp the truth of Scripture, producing in them his fruit, granting to them his gifts, and empowering them for service in the world".

 

Ministry with SU Leaflet_2_.pdf

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1 minute ago, mojomonkey said:

See, the chemtrails are working.

There are no chemtrails. There is no fluoride in the toothpaste. BPA doesn't cause cancer. JFK was shot by a lone gunman. What are you on, you silly conspiracy theorist?

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Just now, Fuller K Rapp said:

There are no chemtrails. There is no fluoride in the toothpaste. BPA doesn't cause cancer. JFK was shot by a lone gunman. What are you on, you silly conspiracy theorist?

That's exactly what they want you to believe. Wake up sheeple.

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13 hours ago, Bigclive said:

I guess they'll let anyone into the schools these days.

 

Far from it. You're not allowed anywhere near a classroom or children in a school unless you've been cleared via DBS and have attended Dept of Education's courses in Santan.

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Just now, Andy Onchan said:

Far from it. You're not allowed anywhere near a classroom or children in a school unless you've been cleared via DBS and have attended Dept of Education's courses in Santan.

And those things are never "fast tracked" for respectable church types....especially if friends of the "faith" are in positions of power...

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5 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said:

And those things are never "fast tracked" for respectable church types....especially if friends of the "faith" are in positions of power...

Aren't they? Every day's a school day....

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Interesting fact:  Jimmy Saville was never CRB checked because they came in during 2002, after he had finished "helping" children.

Saying that, CRB checks never stopped Huntley.

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