vikingdoom 58 Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 I wonder if they drink the same going the other way? Maybe they know a blind eye is turned here so as not to upset the visitors. Real cops on the other side wont be so lenient. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
2bees 1,870 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 It's not 1970 anymore, people do not drink and drive (unless they're really stupid/addicted to alcohol/big fat life victims). To claim that the police 'turn a blind eye' to it is disrespectful to the police and the responsible bikers. You have more chance of dying if you fall off a bike, I can't imagine any of the bikers from round our way putting themselves at that risk. Real cops? How rude! Our police are great & just as good as the police in the UK. What an outrageous thing to say. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Lurker 527 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 I’ve been led to believe that the reason the bar closes on the boats when they get into Manx waters is due to their lackadaisical attitude and consequently losing their Isle of Man alcohol licence. A few years ago I was coming off the boat and saw a rider getting pulled over and breathalysed as he was coming off the boat so it does happen but anyone who’s seen all the bikes coming off the boat in TT will know that it’s an impossible task to target them all and I suspect that the Police have to have grounds to breathalyse such is information that the driver has been drinking or poor driving. Wouldn't do it myself as a) I'm not a dick and b) the beer is shite on the boat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Shoe 994 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 23 minutes ago, 2bees said: It's not 1970 anymore, people do not drink and drive (unless they're really stupid/addicted to alcohol/big fat life victims). To claim that the police 'turn a blind eye' to it is disrespectful to the police and the responsible bikers. You have more chance of dying if you fall off a bike, I can't imagine any of the bikers from round our way putting themselves at that risk. Real cops? How rude! Our police are great & just as good as the police in the UK. What an outrageous thing to say. God you're naive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Roger Mexico 9,936 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) I've always had the impression that most bikers aren't big drinkers over the TT, though there will always be exceptions. Many of those who are drinking on the boat will probably either be foot, pillion or car passengers (people forget how many cars come over for TT) or have their bikes being brought over by van. Certainly most of the drink-related arrests seem to be locals, though there may be an element of "Round up the usual suspects" there. There's no doubt though that the DED and co do seem to want to associate a certain sort of daredevil atmosphere with the TT (all those fast cars) which may encourage some to think they can get away with the sort of thing they wouldn't do normally (including the aforementioned locals) or attract those with careless tendencies. It's rather patronising and insulting to most TT fans to view them as a bunch of overgrown adolescents, but it must affect how some people behave. Edited May 30, 2017 by Roger Mexico 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kevster 1,138 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 24 minutes ago, The Lurker said: I’ve been led to believe that the reason the bar closes on the boats when they get into Manx waters is due to their lackadaisical attitude and consequently losing their Isle of Man alcohol licence. It's actually to do with the regulations around having a Designated Official 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
piebaps 3,368 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 25 minutes ago, The Lurker said: I’ve been led to believe that the reason the bar closes on the boats when they get into Manx waters is due to their lackadaisical attitude and consequently losing their Isle of Man alcohol licence. You've been led incorrectly. The IOM Licensing Act 1995 imposed a duty of care on licensees. IOMSP had difficulty in finding staff who were willing to accept those duties and decided to stop selling alcohol in Manx waters as an alternative. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Lurker 527 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 I stand corrected. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
x-in-man 2,257 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 How do you know they are not foot passengers, dressed in their leathers to fit in, carrying their provisional licences, and borrowing a Manx registered bike in the morning, when they are sober? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kevster 1,138 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 1 minute ago, x-in-man said: How do you know they are not foot passengers, dressed in their leathers to fit in, carrying their provisional licences, and borrowing a Manx registered bike in the morning, when they are sober? UK provisional licences aren't valid on the IoM Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Wright 8,372 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 1 hour ago, piebaps said: You've been led incorrectly. The IOM Licensing Act 1995 imposed a duty of care on licensees. IOMSP had difficulty in finding staff who were willing to accept those duties and decided to stop selling alcohol in Manx waters as an alternative. Not really. They used to have a licence. They were criticised in court for an incident when too much drink was consumed on board. They surrendered their licences. in law they have no duty of care or legal responsibility. went on P&O Portsmouth to Bilbao trip years ago. 36 hours. Most of the other passengers were hells angel club members on their way to a rally in Portugal. They drank the boat dry. It was scary on board. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
x-in-man 2,257 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, kevster said: UK provisional licences aren't valid on the IoM I know ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
woody2 5,021 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 1 hour ago, John Wright said: went on P&O Portsmouth to Bilbao trip years ago. 36 hours. Most of the other passengers were hells angel club members on their way to a rally in Portugal. They drank the boat dry. It was scary on board. its even worst when the saga lot are onboard...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WTF 6,050 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 1 hour ago, John Wright said: Not really. They used to have a licence. They were criticised in court for an incident when too much drink was consumed on board. They surrendered their licences. in law they have no duty of care or legal responsibility. went on P&O Portsmouth to Bilbao trip years ago. 36 hours. Most of the other passengers were hells angel club members on their way to a rally in Portugal. They drank the boat dry. It was scary on board. i thought a licensee did have a duty of care ( or do you just mean the steam packet now?? ) or legal responsibility or something and they are not supposed to serve people who are drunk?? didn't a guy at some place?? that used to be down near the market hall ( possibly spill the beans building? ) lose his license and get prosecuted because someone drank too much and died because of it?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tarne 2,511 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 The cul-de-sac I think? Shit that was a long time ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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