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42 minutes ago, MrPB said:

They’ve just announced one in Guernsey too. Starting to build it soon I believe so I doubt they were in raptures exclusively about the future of IOM tourism. 

Could the developer there also be Dandare?

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1 hour ago, snowman said:

35 employees will end up putting money in to the local economy 

a hotel full of guests are going to spend money when they are on island 

 

as much as people say it will take guests away from existing hotels,  for each one of those people there's another who has made the decision not to visit due to the expensive and poor standard hotels and guest houses

Which are the expensive and poor standard hotels and guest houses ?

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1 hour ago, snowman said:

35 employees will end up putting money in to the local economy 

a hotel full of guests are going to spend money when they are on island 

 

as much as people say it will take guests away from existing hotels,  for each one of those people there's another who has made the decision not to visit due to the expensive and poor standard hotels and guest houses

Hotel workers are not known for being well paid and also for tending to need to be imported in any case (because locals will switch to better-paid and more reliable jobs with less anti-social hours).  So the employees may not be that much of a plus for the economy.  Indeed there's a danger with encouraging low-paid workers to immigrate, that even if they stay, they may turn out to be a nett loss to the economy.

Interviewed at the opening, Simon Ewins from Premier claimed that they had faithful customers who might now try the Island because there is a Premier.  No doubt there will be some (there are always some of anything) but they have a lot of choice in those 750+ hotels and I think this misreads the market.  Visiting the Island isn't like deciding to stay in Town A rather than Town B, which are ten miles apart, because Town A has a Premier.  The Island is always going to be the destination itself and people are going to decide to come and then where to stay.  The vast majority of Premier bookings are going to be taken from elsewhere on the Island not half.

This isn't to blame Premier - it's not their job to attract people to the Island.  The responsibility to grow the tourism sector lies with the Government for the same reason as above - it's the Isle of Man as a whole that people usually come to see.   And over a period when global tourism has rocketed, they have been singularly bad at doing so.

Incidentally in that interview it's also said that Premier won't 'gouge' their customers at busy times - though comments on next year's TT rates suggest some people may feel differently.  On the other hand they already seem to have no rooms left for then already (there is some availability in Practice Week at around £180 per room per night), so clearly the market can bear it.

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I would say it is part of the role of the hotelier to attract visitors to their destination, and to their hotel imparticular

Is government the best body to attract visitors, or do you see growing the tourism sector as a different thing?

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30 minutes ago, Donald Trumps said:

I would say it is part of the role of the hotelier to attract visitors to their destination, and to their hotel imparticular

Is government the best body to attract visitors, or do you see growing the tourism sector as a different thing?

To some extent it is, not least because it consists of more than accommodation.  And of course government and hoteliers (and carriers) should work together to increase visitors.  But in somewhere like the Island the lead in attracting people always has to come from the government because it is the place that people are wanting to come to.  Unfortunately the DfE and its predecessors seem to have been completely uninterested in this the last decade or more (and not much good at it before that).

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3 hours ago, Roger Mexico said:

To some extent it is, not least because it consists of more than accommodation.  And of course government and hoteliers (and carriers) should work together to increase visitors.  But in somewhere like the Island the lead in attracting people always has to come from the government because it is the place that people are wanting to come to.  Unfortunately the DfE and its predecessors seem to have been completely uninterested in this the last decade or more (and not much good at it before that).

When government has a vision different to that of industry you will find that goverment thinks it knows best - to me Mr Callister epitomises this

& consequently tourism fails to grow

(I don't agree that government has to lead - in my view the responsibility for sustainable tourism development should be passed to a committee of interest groups led by the sizeable Manx National Heritage but to include Manx Wildlife Trust, Accommodation providers, tourist group organisers, transport providers, etc)

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There are many things the government shouldn't be doing, but they have to justify the scale of their existence somehow.

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Would "enormity" be a better word..?

I wonder if there's actually any figures to show the size of Government in our society now vs say, 30 years ago?

And what the direct and indirect tax takes were and are to support it?

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18 minutes ago, Non-Believer said:

Would "enormity" be a better word..?

I wonder if there's actually any figures to show the size of Government in our society now vs say, 30 years ago?

And what the direct and indirect tax takes were and are to support it?

And whether anything is being done better as a result. Considering the wonders of technology, we should be able to function with fewer behind the scenes pen pushers, not substantially more. Every area of every department now seems to have the same number or fewer people at the sharp end as years ago, but legions of management, supposedly directing operations, when there were previously just a couple. And these folks don't come cheap.

There is also a credibility gap. Situations abound where qualified, knowledgeable staff, who are running themselves ragged to keep up with day to day crisis management, are being directed or misdirected by higher management who are less or unqualified in the field and yet drawing (I hesitate to say "earning") salaries getting on for double those who actually have the qualifications to do the job. Is it any wonder that they find it difficult to attract and retain good people?

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3 hours ago, woolley said:

And whether anything is being done better as a result. Considering the wonders of technology, we should be able to function with fewer behind the scenes pen pushers, not substantially more. Every area of every department now seems to have the same number or fewer people at the sharp end as years ago, but legions of management, supposedly directing operations, when there were previously just a couple. And these folks don't come cheap.

There is also a credibility gap. Situations abound where qualified, knowledgeable staff, who are running themselves ragged to keep up with day to day crisis management, are being directed or misdirected by higher management who are less or unqualified in the field and yet drawing (I hesitate to say "earning") salaries getting on for double those who actually have the qualifications to do the job. Is it any wonder that they find it difficult to attract and retain good people?

Look at Noble's

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14 hours ago, dilligaf said:

Look at Noble's

Is the restaurant open now?. Has anyone tried it? 

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19 minutes ago, mad_manx said:

Is the restaurant open now?. Has anyone tried it? 

Post deleted. Failed to appreciate sarcasm :lol:

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4 minutes ago, thesultanofsheight said:

Post deleted. Failed to appreciate sarcasm :lol:

Lol..I quoted the wrong post. 

I was asking about the restaurant  in the new Premier inn. Barbary coast has gone a bit downhill  nowadays and was looking for an alternative .

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1 minute ago, mad_manx said:

Lol..I quoted the wrong post. 

I was asking about the restaurant  in the new Premier inn. Barbary coast has gone a bit downhill  nowadays and was looking for an alternative .

It is open and are also doing deals to get people in apparently. I thought you were asking Dilli about the restaurant in Noble’s. 

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5 minutes ago, thesultanofsheight said:

It is open and are also doing deals to get people in apparently. I thought you were asking Dilli about the restaurant in Noble’s. 

Lol. Hope that i will never have to eat there again. It was horrible and overpriced :-(

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