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56 minutes ago, Chinahand said:

Anyway presses Submit Reply slightly dreading I'll be accused of having all sorts of structurally racist and culturally insensitive views for saying this. 

Nah.  You're just wrong.

The point about Mone's odd phrase is that it doesn't make any sense unless you think white skins are superior to other sorts, in the way that saying someone was a 'waste of skin' or 'waste of breath' wouldn't do.  A black person using the equivalent phrase to another would also have racial implications - accusing someone of a lack of solidarity for instance - otherwise that wouldn't make any sense either.

The fact that she unknowingly aimed it at someone of mixed race is only telling in that she automatically assumed that anyone else in the circles she was mixing[1] would be white.  But the phrase would still be racist if the recipient had been white - though maybe less likely to be called out.  The fact that the Guardian (always keen to gatekeep) missed this point was also telling.

 

[1]  The row emerged from a fatal collision between two rich people's pleasure craft.  

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1 hour ago, manxchester said:

To my mind she's suggesting that white skin is superior to other colours, otherwise why mention it? I could be completely wrong though and as you say it is a bit of a minefield. I don't think this is the strongest counter argument from her though:

“Baroness Mone is 100% not a racist. Baroness Mone and her husband have built over 15 schools in Africa in the past three years.”

Just needed her to mention all her black friends as well.

Why not just say the number of schools? 'Over 15', is that 15 1/4, 15 1/8, why not just say 16, 17, 20, not, 'over 15'?

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Roger, I disagree, but think I've said all I've got to say, but it is interesting how accusations of racism gain traction nowadays. 

I also do not think those living the ulta rich 5-star lifestyle are in a white bubble. Plenty of people of Arab, South- and East-Asian, and Africa heritage exist in it too. 

I've a certain amount of experience interacting with people from such backgrounds and find your statement unconvincing they do not live in a white-only bubble. 

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Very slow work day so thought I'd do a bit of digging. It would seem the building of schools is actually Barrowmans foundation making a donation to Action Aid who have used the money to build 8 schools...

God when is it 5 o'clock!

 

ACTIONAID

Over the past 4 years, Doug has been a major financial contributor towards the building of 8 schools in Africa; 7 of which are in Ethiopia and 1 in Ghana. As a result, over 3,500 children now have access to schooling and sanitary facilities. During 2017, Doug has pledged to get more involved with Actionaid going forward and to work with them on new projects.

Apart from the above charities, Doug regularly supports local charities on the Isle of Man, where he lives, ranging from Cancer Care to promoting sport in the community for young people.

 

 

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3 hours ago, manxchester said:

Very slow work day so thought I'd do a bit of digging. It would seem the building of schools is actually Barrowmans foundation making a donation to Action Aid who have used the money to build 8 schools...

God when is it 5 o'clock!

 

ACTIONAID

Over the past 4 years, Doug has been a major financial contributor towards the building of 8 schools in Africa; 7 of which are in Ethiopia and 1 in Ghana. As a result, over 3,500 children now have access to schooling and sanitary facilities. During 2017, Doug has pledged to get more involved with Actionaid going forward and to work with them on new projects.

Apart from the above charities, Doug regularly supports local charities on the Isle of Man, where he lives, ranging from Cancer Care to promoting sport in the community for young people.

 

 

Don't worry Doug.... only a few more minutes! 🤣

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4 hours ago, Roger Mexico said:

Nah.  You're just wrong.

The point about Mone's odd phrase is that it doesn't make any sense unless you think white skins are superior to other sorts, in the way that saying someone was a 'waste of skin' or 'waste of breath' wouldn't do.  A black person using the equivalent phrase to another would also have racial implications - accusing someone of a lack of solidarity for instance - otherwise that wouldn't make any sense either.

The fact that she unknowingly aimed it at someone of mixed race is only telling in that she automatically assumed that anyone else in the circles she was mixing[1] would be white.  But the phrase would still be racist if the recipient had been white - though maybe less likely to be called out.  The fact that the Guardian (always keen to gatekeep) missed this point was also telling.

 

[1]  The row emerged from a fatal collision between two rich people's pleasure craft.  

Not all rich people are white, in fact there are probably more rich of other ethnic origins.  Not to say you are wrong, but just to point out a wrong preconception. 

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15 minutes ago, Gladys said:

Not all rich people are white, in fact there are probably more rich of other ethnic origins.  Not to say you are wrong, but just to point out a wrong preconception. 

I referred to the "circles in which [Mone] was mixing" rather than all rich people anywhere in the World.  But indeed, it's really about her preconceptions rather than anyone else's.  And I suspect any non-white rich people in her circles will be seen as 'honorary whites'. 

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1 minute ago, Roger Mexico said:

I referred to the "circles in which [Mone] was mixing" rather than all rich people anywhere in the World.  But indeed, it's really about her preconceptions rather than anyone else's.  And I suspect any non-white rich people in her circles will be seen as 'honorary whites'. 

Quite, its amazing how money removes any racial distinctions. 

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