woolley Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 23 minutes ago, Expatriate said: No, it isn't a fact. The festering shitholes on the Isle of Man, and there are, at least according to the government are in Douglas, Ramsey and Castletown and are closely linked to areas of social housing. Much as they are in the UK. I have no idea how 'degenerate' they are, and nor do you, but in terms of income deprivation they match similar areas in the UK. I beg to differ. There is nothing in the Isle of Man to match the "festering shit holes" in parts of the UK or even to come anywhere near. To suggest otherwise is risible. Pick whatever area you would as the worst in the Isle of Man and it would be a walk in the park by comparison. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) Just read through this https://www.nasuwt.org.uk/uploads/assets/uploaded/ddcc2f30-39b7-4da7-a6a3f2ef9c998838.pdf No offence "ballaughbiker", but there is a huge amount of bollocks in that "doc" Edited September 25, 2017 by dilligaf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballaughbiker Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) Non taken dilli, I've never seen it before. Union views are often taken from a bit of an oblique viewpoint whatever workers they represent. To which bits do you particularly take exception ? Edited September 25, 2017 by ballaughbiker punctuation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expatriate Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 23 hours ago, woolley said: I beg to differ. There is nothing in the Isle of Man to match the "festering shit holes" in parts of the UK or even to come anywhere near. To suggest otherwise is risible. Pick whatever area you would as the worst in the Isle of Man and it would be a walk in the park by comparison. We seem to be talking about two different things. Stu called the country I live in a 'festering shit hole' etc etc. I asked him where he meant, given that its a fair description of some places in the UK and he said everywhere other than some unspecified towns. Clearly, that isn't fair and it irritated me, much as I seem to have irritated you.. Now he may have meant that anywhere other than the Isle of Man is a festering shit hole, which really is risible, but I assumed he meant the places where the poor people live, given that they tend to live in the most undesirable areas and tend to get in the most trouble. In common with the UK the Isle of Man has areas of severe income deprivation so if there are festering shitholes in the UK due to poverty there are festering shot holes on the Isle of Man due to poverty, if that's how you choose to describe them. That is a situation which is known and can be proved to be true; it is a fact that there is severe income deprivation on the Isle of Man. Your government regularly publishes a social needs assessment. Google it, its on page 12. We seem to be disagreeing about how deep the hole is, how much shit is in it and how long its been festering. You seem to be certain that there is more shit in UK shitholes than there could possibly be on the Isle of Man and that it hasn't festered as badly. I don't think you can know that and that you hold this belief as a prejudice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 I don't recall seeing any knife or gun crimes or grooming gang trials reported at all in IOM media. I think perhaps that statistics would suggest that even though there are certain pockets of economic deprivation on Mann it would not compare with even the most law abiding area in UK. At least that what it seems to me. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 12 hours ago, Expatriate said: You seem to be certain that there is more shit in UK shitholes than there could possibly be on the Isle of Man and that it hasn't festered as badly. I don't think you can know that and that you hold this belief as a prejudice. I hold it from wide experience of life on both sides from many perspectives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 59 minutes ago, woolley said: I hold it from wide experience of life on both sides from many perspectives. In other words he will smug you death with anecdotal "experience"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 8 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: In other words he will smug you death with anecdotal "experience"... Are you drunk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, woolley said: Are you drunk? No, just used to your posting style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 I can't help being sensible, Richard. If that makes me smug in your view it's more to do with your comprehension than my posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Just now, woolley said: I can't help being sensible... Some might disagree with you, but then you're worldly experience would disagree with them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Now now girls... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 14 hours ago, Expatriate said: We seem to be talking about two different things. Stu called the country I live in a 'festering shit hole' etc etc. I asked him where he meant, given that its a fair description of some places in the UK and he said everywhere other than some unspecified towns. Yep, that's fair comment. I think it's just a matter of scale rather than the Island doing anything right in particular, seeing as it has followed slavishly the same law and order policies extant in the UK. If you have a size and scale of "festering shit hole" that can go on for mile after mile after desolate mile in all directions then it reaches a critical mass at which it can implode similar to the principle of a black hole in space. By analogy, ours never get beyond festering white dwarf status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paswt Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 2 hours ago, RIchard Britten said: In other words he will smug you death with anecdotal "experience"... which may fall short of making a motorcycle racer "sh*t him/her self perhaps ....... ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, paswt said: which may fall short of making a motorcycle racer "sh*t him/her self perhaps ....... ? Still waiting, Mr Bullshit until you prove otherwise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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