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It's not even difficult. The long row of silver tables is causing the mayhem as it's in the wrong direction. It just needs a shorter table to go lengthways to accommodate 4 people at a time and then there is a steady flow while a member of staff helps and pushes your trays through. Just copy UK airports and for about £50 it's sorted. No idea where this hundreds of thousands of pounds is needed, we only have a couple of bottlenecks a day. Most of the time the airport is virtually empty.

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If you arrived on your todd and it took 2 minutes from arriving at the table to leaving the security area you'd be pleased with the result.

An Airbus A319 has 156 seats. Assuming a full flight and everyone making security in two minutes, that means screening takes 312 minutes.

If two 319s are heading off in close proximity, the total screening time is double.

Now, we attack that total by racking, packing and stacking the passengers then firing through the scanner & x-ray as closely as is possible. That makes an impression, but its still not brilliant. The airline isn't interested as they save a few quid by having their ground handlers do two aircraft.

The clear answer for pax is to get down in good time and be patient. It certainly isn't worth spending huge dollar on it. A quick look at the online departure board will show when the pinch points are. It isn't rocket science.

Jesus there are some whiney bitches on here.

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3 hours ago, Lxxx said:

It's not even difficult. The long row of silver tables is causing the mayhem as it's in the wrong direction. It just needs a shorter table to go lengthways to accommodate 4 people at a time and then there is a steady flow while a member of staff helps and pushes your trays through. Just copy UK airports and for about £50 it's sorted. No idea where this hundreds of thousands of pounds is needed, we only have a couple of bottlenecks a day. Most of the time the airport is virtually empty.

They’re just bell-ends the best way of dealing with the problem is just binning them off. 

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Tried leaving the Island at the weekend - chaos,  all the cancellations, and none of them due to weather conditions, all down to piss poor service by carriers, BA, Easyjet and Flybe, surely they must be accountable for the service level they are offering, I pitied the ops people trying to justify the cancellations, sort out taxis , accommodation etc for so many people, totally under resourced - lots of pissed off people , doesn't give a good account of the Island

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The joke amongst all this is the airport was furnished with millions upon millions of pounds to cope with the projected 2 million PAX plus per year by now ! It can't even deal with two easy jet flights in proximity !

I despair at the lack of accountability anywhere in the CS or government it really is a joke !

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3 hours ago, piebaps said:

If you arrived on your todd and it took 2 minutes from arriving at the table to leaving the security area you'd be pleased with the result.

An Airbus A319 has 156 seats. Assuming a full flight and everyone making security in two minutes, that means screening takes 312 minutes.

If two 319s are heading off in close proximity, the total screening time is double.

Now, we attack that total by racking, packing and stacking the passengers then firing through the scanner & x-ray as closely as is possible. That makes an impression, but its still not brilliant. The airline isn't interested as they save a few quid by having their ground handlers do two aircraft.

The clear answer for pax is to get down in good time and be patient. It certainly isn't worth spending huge dollar on it. A quick look at the online departure board will show when the pinch points are. It isn't rocket science.

Jesus there are some whiney bitches on here.

Feck that. We live on a small island, one of the reasons for basing a business here is the easy access on and off the island. Fair enough spending time there if you are leaving twice a year on your holidays, but when you are going through twice a week, it adds up to a lot of wasted time. The airport is providing a service that we pay for and we should expect it to be done properly.

As you say it works perfectly when the small planes are in but it was an almighty cock up allowing two jets to come in around the same time without thinking the impact through. 

Two scanners open at busy times, better layout and the removal of some of the nonsense done by the security staff would sort a lot of the problems out.

I have questioned the rational of some of the actions but they do not know why they re doing it. Toiletry bags do not need to be sealed. The only purpose of sealing them is to show they are not overloaded. If you have deodorant and toothpaste only - no issue, leave the back and stop fiddling with it. Putting the toiletries in to a smaller tray makes no difference other than extra time, which when multiplied by high numbers causes unnecessary delays.

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9 hours ago, piebaps said:

If you arrived on your todd and it took 2 minutes from arriving at the table to leaving the security area you'd be pleased with the result.

An Airbus A319 has 156 seats. Assuming a full flight and everyone making security in two minutes, that means screening takes 312 minutes.

If two 319s are heading off in close proximity, the total screening time is double.

Now, we attack that total by racking, packing and stacking the passengers then firing through the scanner & x-ray as closely as is possible. That makes an impression, but its still not brilliant. The airline isn't interested as they save a few quid by having their ground handlers do two aircraft.

The clear answer for pax is to get down in good time and be patient. It certainly isn't worth spending huge dollar on it. A quick look at the online departure board will show when the pinch points are. It isn't rocket science.

Jesus there are some whiney bitches on here.

 

I understand the logic of your explanation.

What I don't understand (and I used to do this every week) is why we used to be able to cope with the early morning rush of Mcr, L'pool, Brum, Lon etc. all taking off within half an hour and sod all queues. Ten years ago I used to roll up at 06:30 for the 07:00 to Mcr week-in, week-out, and take it for granted that I would waltz through security, grab a coffee, and have time to drink it before boarding despite the hordes similarly gathered for all the other early morning bizness flights - OK smaller planes, but more flights.

The regular massive queuing for security problem is recent, really a 2017 phenomenon. Doesn't make sense - and if the answer is that we're just clustering more flights and therefore more pax into peak clumps then the slot schedulers need a kicking, because pax volumes have not risen significantly and departures used to be a ghost town for much of the day after the early morning ejaculation.

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6 hours ago, Albert Tatlock said:

It seems to have all gone wrong since it was outsourced? This could be for two reasons...piss poor management of the new system...deliberate subtefuge to bring it back in to the pension club.

My money's on the latter.

Fair comment Albert if the relationship between Management and workers is poor then it wouldn't surprise me if those on the front line are 'working to "rule" ' with the intention of brassing off the punters who will give the managers grief.

Seen it happen in LG  :whistling:

ETA  the 'management then claim it's not their fault and they require more staff or equipment to do the job when all that was required (in the LG event) was the removal of the 'manager' and the employment of someone who had some social skills  and believed in 'working with folk':D

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6 hours ago, Albert Tatlock said:

It seems to have all gone wrong since it was outsourced? This could be for two reasons...piss poor management of the new system...deliberate subtefuge to bring it back in to the pension club.

My money's on the latter.

They will have got legged over on the contract too and the private contractor would likely have been able to ensure that it was firmly in their favour as piss poor managers likely wouldn’t have spotted that for every possible change to service delivery and hours from what had been contractually agreed they’d have to pay them extra for. The whole thing is a total embarrassment they should be thoroughly ashamed of.  

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2 hours ago, paswt said:

Fair comment Albert if the relationship between Management and workers is poor then it wouldn't surprise me if those on the front line are 'working to "rule" ' with the intention of brassing off the punters who will give the managers grief.

Seen it happen in LG  :whistling:

ETA  the 'management then claim it's not their fault and they require more staff or equipment to do the job when all that was required (in the LG event) was the removal of the 'manager' and the employment of someone who had some social skills  and believed in 'working with folk':D

Couldn't agree more. From the outside, it certainly looks like this is the root cause of the problems....

 

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