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1 hour ago, La Colombe said:

It's hardly ratcheting up the pressure then really, is it? 

no.... but its the lefty run guardian you keep quoting....... 

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4 minutes ago, woody2 said:

the difference is, if caught they can be deported straight back to the eu, they can hardly claim asylum from the eu*......

(*except in a few small cases)

The UK government can barely catch any of the illegal immigrants*  that enter the country now!  It's a joke.  

(*not asylum seekers)

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Just now, manxman1980 said:

The UK government can barely catch any of the illegal immigrants*  that enter the country now!  It's a joke.  

(*not asylum seekers)

the police catch plenty everyday......

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57 minutes ago, woody2 said:

when did the eu start growing bananas........

W2 fake fact

France (in Martinique and Guadeloupe), followed by Spain (primarily in the Canary Islands). Other banana-producing countries in Europe include Portugal (on Madeira), Greece, and Italy.

And whilst it isn’t in the EU, Iceland, in huge geothermically heated polytunnels.

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4 minutes ago, John Wright said:

W2 fake fact

France (in Martinique and Guadeloupe), followed by Spain (primarily in the Canary Islands). Other banana-producing countries in Europe include Portugal (on Madeira), Greece, and Italy.

And whilst it isn’t in the EU, Iceland, in huge geothermically heated polytunnels.

i was asking a question.......

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6 hours ago, manxman1980 said:

The UK government can barely catch any of the illegal immigrants*  that enter the country now!  It's a joke.  

(*not asylum seekers)

So how do you measure how many illegal immigrants there are entering the country?

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7 hours ago, P.K. said:

So how do you measure how many illegal immigrants there are entering the country?

That's part of my point.  We simply don't know and any figures are an estimate.  It's my understanding that most illegal immigrants entered the UK legally with a visa but then overstay.

Introducing more visas but retaining the same controls will have zero effect...  

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14 hours ago, woody2 said:

i was asking a question.......

Adding half a dozen dots at the end of a few words doesn’t make it a question, as the quote clearly shows. One of these makes it interogative -?.

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1 hour ago, manxman1980 said:

That's part of my point.  We simply don't know and any figures are an estimate.  It's my understanding that most illegal immigrants entered the UK legally with a visa but then overstay.

Introducing more visas but retaining the same controls will have zero effect...  

the same with the amount of eu nationals are living in the uk....

i did spot that yesterday the eu passed visa free travel even if its a no deal.....

can't find it on the eu's website yet but this should satisfy the links nutters.....

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-brexit-visas-no-deal-british-citizens-latest-a8631671.html

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34 minutes ago, John Wright said:

Adding half a dozen dots at the end of a few words doesn’t make it a question, as the quote clearly shows. One of these makes it interogative -?.

but the words do......

  15 hours ago, woody2 said:

when did the eu start growing bananas........

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22 minutes ago, woody2 said:

but the words do......

when did the eu start growing bananas........

Actually they don’t. But never mind. The lack of a question mark turns it into a statement of disbelief, grammatically.

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7 hours ago, woody2 said:

the same with the amount of eu nationals are living in the uk....

i did spot that yesterday the eu passed visa free travel even if its a no deal.....

can't find it on the eu's website yet but this should satisfy the links nutters.....

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-brexit-visas-no-deal-british-citizens-latest-a8631671.html

Have you actually read that link? All of it?  If so.... you seem to have understood a different story to that which the author intended.

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Introducing more visas but retaining the same controls will have zero effect...  

Without ID cards, proper control is impossible. 

So, do brexiteers want ID cards? :lol: :lol::lol:.....................  no.

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1 hour ago, ballaughbiker said:

Have you actually read that link? All of it?  If so.... you seem to have understood a different story to that which the author intended.

have you......

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British travellers will not need visas to visit the European Union for short stays even if there is a no-deal Brexit, the European Commission has said.

Commissioners made the recommendation to put the UK on the visa-exempt list at a meeting in Strasbourg on Tuesday. The policy is dependent on the UK continuing to offer reciprocal visa-free access for EU citizens.

 

Travel advice issued by the commission says: “The European Commission has proposed to the EU legislator to exempt UK nationals from visa requirements for short-term stays”.

 

The decision is still technically subject to confirmation by member states but is very unlikely to be overturned.

 

The EU puts all countries on either a visa exempt list or a visa required list. Visa policy is coordinated for the whole Schengen passportless area.

British travellers could still be inconvenienced by Brexit because the EU is planning to bring in a system where countries outside the bloc will need to apply for an electronic travel authorisation in advance, even if they are visa-exempt. 

 

Etias – the EU Travel Information and Authorisation System – is modelled on the US Esta system and is being introduced on security grounds.

 

To what extent British citizens will have the right to work in the EU or move there long-term are separate to the question of travel visas; these questions will be settled as part of the future relationship negotiations between the EU and UK, expected to commence next year.

 

The move on visas is part of the EU’s intensified planning for a possible no-deal Brexit. In a statement, the European Commission said: “The European Commission has today proposed to grant UK citizens visa-free travel to the EU after the United Kingdom’s withdrawal from the European Union.

“It would mean that UK citizens would not need a visa when travelling to the Schengen area for short stays of up to 90 days in any 180-day period. In the scenario where the UK leaves the EU without a deal, this would apply as of 30 March 2019. If a deal is reached, however, it would apply as of the end of the transition period, as outlined in the withdrawal agreement. This follows the commission’s continued commitment that citizens’ rights must come first in the negotiations on the UK’s withdrawal from the EU.

 

“This proposal is entirely conditional upon the UK also granting reciprocal and non-discriminatory visa-free travel for all EU member states, in line with the principle of visa reciprocity. The UK government has declared its intention not to require a visa from citizens of the EU27 member states for shorts stays for the purposes of tourism and business. EU rules on non-EU nationals travelling to the EU, such as those on border control, would of course apply to UK citizens once they are no longer EU citizens.”

 

The visa-free policy covers the 22 EU member countries that are members of the Schengen area and the four Schengen-associated states – Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway and Switzerland. It will also apply to Romania, Bulgaria, Croatia and Cyprus, which are outside Schengen but coordinate their policies with it.

 

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i did spot that yesterday the eu passed visa free travel even if its a no deal.....

whats wrong.....

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1 hour ago, ballaughbiker said:

Without ID cards, proper control is impossible. 

So, do brexiteers want ID cards? :lol: :lol::lol:.....................  no.

no it's not......

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