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7 hours ago, thesultanofsheight said:

No I’m agreeing with you. It would be quite easy to position this in the mindset of the UK Brexiteers. We tried to deliver Brexit but it’s these awful lawless offshores that mean that we can’t get a deal (not that there was ever going to be a deal anyway). So rather than admit we totally failed to deliver Brexit - as a last ditch attempt let’s openly kick the shit out of these parasites to deflect attention from our own failings (and 50% of the UK at least would probably be supportive). That or they ditch us in a last clamour to get a deal from the EU. The EU would probably like that; the UK being prepared to ditch the troublesome offshores to get a deal. 

Brexiters? - hostilities are coming from lefties - Soros,Guardian,BBC,Murphy,Corbyn. etc.

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"VAT Agreement to be renegotiated" will be on Manx Radio next I'm sure. 

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So Vincle Cable ( who he?.....correction, who the fuck is he?) is shouting about imposing direct rule on British overseas territories. The guy is an absolute total fucking self deluded fool.

You never know though, he might be Prime Minister next time round. Stranger things have happened of late.

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3 hours ago, thesultanofsheight said:

But to be fair to Piebaps, he’s a qualified lawyer not a qualified tax adviser. 

Ahh well that explains it.

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13 minutes ago, gettafa said:

So Vincle Cable ( who he?.....correction, who the fuck is he?) is shouting about imposing direct rule on British overseas territories. The guy is an absolute total fucking self deluded fool.

You never know though, he might be Prime Minister next time round. Stranger things have happened of late.

Man, it's bad when I didn't even know he was Lib Dem leader. Fucking hell Lib Dems, get a clue. 

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19 minutes ago, gettafa said:

So Vincle Cable ( who he?.....correction, who the fuck is he?) is shouting about imposing direct rule on British overseas territories. The guy is an absolute total fucking self deluded fool.

You never know though, he might be Prime Minister next time round. Stranger things have happened of late.

I thought that Britain had moved away from its colonial past?  Maybe Vince is just regressing to the empire of his youth?

Maybe he should threaten the UK with direct rule if they don't sort out their tax affairs either?

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Then again they did it with the Turks and Caicos islands about ten years ago. And they also have better university provision than we do - "Once a student completes their education at Turks and Caicos Islands Community College, they are allowed to further their education at a university in the United States, Canada, or the United Kingdom for free. They have to commit to working in The Turks and Caicos Islands for four years to receive this additional education."

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51 minutes ago, Tarne said:

"VAT Agreement to be renegotiated" will be on Manx Radio next I'm sure. 

Time to ditch it completely then.

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3 hours ago, thesultanofsheight said:

He isn’t and he lists no tax qualifications on his website. As PieBaps says why would you ask a lawyer for tax advice? 

If a number of CSP’s are comfortable with tax advice from a lawyer...

 

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24 minutes ago, Bellefield said:

I thought that Britain had moved away from its colonial past?  Maybe Vince is just regressing to the empire of his youth?

Maybe he should threaten the UK with direct rule if they don't sort out their tax affairs either?

It's exactly what you get with liberals,democrats,lefties,socialists,communists

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55 minutes ago, Lagman said:

Brexiters? - hostilities are coming from lefties - Soros,Guardian,BBC,Murphy,Corbyn. etc.

The point though is that as part of the EU Britain has been very well placed to defend the offshores - to effectively lobby against EU legislation which would in particular restrict the ability of EU clients to use the offshores. That’s partly why so many in the industry were pro EU. Because Britain had influence from within the EU. Influence over the EU.

The irony is that many of those who have funded opposition to the EU have themselves enjoyed the benefits of the offshores. That’s what I meant about them shitting in their own backyards.

1 minute ago, Lagman said:

Time to ditch it completely then.

That would be a disaster for the IOM. A lot of business would leave.

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I don't know of any lawyers in the IOM who give tax advice - they all defer to the accountants.  The only one I know with any tax qualification is Annemarie Hughes at DQ, and I'm pretty sure she won't consider her knowledge to be up to date and will tell you to get advice from an accountant.  

In the UK it's a different matter entirely.  Tax is, after all, law and specialist law firms and barristers are often involved in this sort of advice (or employed by the Big 4, and give it under their umbrella)

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9 minutes ago, pongo said:

The point though is that as part of the EU Britain has been very well placed to defend the offshores - to effectively lobby against EU legislation which would in particular restrict the ability of EU clients to use the offshores. That’s partly why so many in the industry were pro EU. Because Britain had influence from within the EU. Influence over the EU.

The irony is that many of those who have funded opposition to the EU have themselves enjoyed the benefits of the offshores. That’s what I meant about them shitting in their own backyards.

That would be a disaster for the IOM. A lot of business would leave.

We'd lose buisness and gain other buisness. Both sides said under the last negotiation that it's about what it would be if we were collecting our own, if it gets reduced again, it isn't worth keeping.Plus before it was renegotiated the first time there was plenty of people who wanted rid of it anyway.

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Well if lawyers are never involved in tax advice, there'll be nothing to worry about regarding this leak of data from Appleby then.  So that's sorted.

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