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The public both here and in the UK are easily manipulated and have a memory of only about one week as far as the news cycle is concerned. This will die down and be forgotten by December.

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9 minutes ago, Non-Believer said:

If true though, why is the Govt making cutbacks and proffering redundancy schemes? Surely the bloat-makers will be ecstatic at the potential to allow the bloat-funding to continue?

I read it as a short term funding gap, a fudge to tide us over. I would imagine certain wheels were already in motion to attempt to do something about government bloat so those will still roll on to their logical conclusion. It's not like someone has just signalled it's happy hour again.  

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21 minutes ago, gettafa said:

There's all these smug suited people on the low tax Isle of Man who are becoming £millionaires by dipping into the pot. I don't think your average man in the UK street would be happy about that.

There's massive political mileage in this. The Isle of Man is an ideal whipping boy.

 

16 minutes ago, notwell said:

:lol:

Ah, the cap fits

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23 minutes ago, Lxxx said:

I read it as a short term funding gap, a fudge to tide us over. I would imagine certain wheels were already in motion to attempt to do something about government bloat so those will still roll on to their logical conclusion. It's not like someone has just signalled it's happy hour again.  

It doesn't say it's temporary in the article.

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2 minutes ago, woolley said:

It doesn't say it's temporary in the article.

It just says until 2019 doesn't it. I presume that's when it will get reassessed

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1 hour ago, gettafa said:

Well I have to say I would like to agree with you.

Was it you or someone else, maybe it was everyone else, that said

  • Trump will not become President of the United States. Simple as that.
  • Corbyn will not become leader of the Labour Party. Simple as that.
  • Brexit... blah...blah etc

 

The reason for what I said is simple logic. May is screwed, bye, bye. Corbyn/Labour is popular but under him his party is not capable of running the shop.

If only there was a nice cuddly avuncular Father Cristmas type figure who we can all trust and speaks lots of really good stuff, and speaks so authoritively and a  'Sir' to boot, and isn't a raving fucking leftie, doesn't stick it in other members of his party, has no scandal

....hey ticks_all_the_boxes

If it was me then feel free to quote me, however, I do not recall saying any of those things.

Vince Cable as Prime Minister would require either another coalition Government or a Lib Dem Government which are both highly unlikely given that the Lib Dems lost seats at the last election when they were expected to do better.  They have been damaged by the last coalition Government.

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40 minutes ago, Aristotle said:

The public both here and in the UK are easily manipulated and have a memory of only about one week as far as the news cycle is concerned. This will die down and be forgotten by December.

Believe that and you will believe anything.  Look, even if that is the case the existence and expansion of the use of tax havens is now raising real anger across Europe and the rest of the world who will not forget this immorality inside a week.  As it is our own oligarchs are facing increasing opposition so even here pressure is increasing on the UK to clean up its act. Add BREXIT and there will be no choice, the first thing that will go will be the freedom to facilitate cheating and immorality by the UK protectorates, they will be the sacrificial anodes in an increasingly caustic environment.

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Just now, Jasper said:

Believe that and you will believe anything.  Look, even if that is the case the existence and expansion of the use of tax havens is now raising real anger across Europe and the rest of the world who will not forget this immorality inside a week.  As it is our own oligarchs are facing increasing opposition so even here pressure is increasing on the UK to clean up its act. Add BREXIT and there will be no choice, the first thing that will go will be the freedom to facilitate cheating and immorality by the UK protectorates, they will be the sacrificial anodes in an increasingly caustic environment.

If all you read are the Socialist Workers Party magazines and other leftie publications you could be forgiven for thinking the public are frothing at the mouth to get at those missing millions which would add a few more teaching assistants to their local kids school. Then you put your head outside the front door and realise it's not the case. 

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3 minutes ago, Jasper said:

Believe that and you will believe anything.  Look, even if that is the case the existence and expansion of the use of tax havens is now raising real anger across Europe and the rest of the world who will not forget this immorality inside a week.  As it is our own oligarchs are facing increasing opposition so even here pressure is increasing on the UK to clean up its act. Add BREXIT and there will be no choice, the first thing that will go will be the freedom to facilitate cheating and immorality by the UK protectorates, they will be the sacrificial anodes in an increasingly caustic environment.

Are the EU going to close down Luxembourg? Nope.

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3 minutes ago, Jasper said:

Believe that and you will believe anything.  Look, even if that is the case the existence and expansion of the use of tax havens is now raising real anger across Europe and the rest of the world who will not forget this immorality inside a week.  As it is our own oligarchs are facing increasing opposition so even here pressure is increasing on the UK to clean up its act. Add BREXIT and there will be no choice, the first thing that will go will be the freedom to facilitate cheating and immorality by the UK protectorates, they will be the sacrificial anodes in an increasingly caustic environment.

It's not really cheating or immoral though. 

And if you wanted to play the morality card then it's certainly no more immoral that  the regressive and punitive tax regimes that people, who can, seek to avoid.

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3 minutes ago, Lxxx said:

If all you read are the Socialist Workers Party magazines and other leftie publications you could be forgiven for thinking the public are frothing at the mouth to get at those missing millions which would add a few more teaching assistants to their local kids school. Then you put your head outside the front door and realise it's not the case. 

 

1 minute ago, Manximus Aururaneus said:

Are the EU going to close down Luxembourg? Nope.

Wait and see the effect of the fallout as a result of increasing revelation of the extent of tax dodging becomes clear and the need for increased EU taxes emerge after BREXIT hits. 

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Just now, Jasper said:

 

Wait and see the effect of the fallout as a result of increasing revelation of the extent of tax dodging becomes clear and the need for increased EU taxes emerge after BREXIT hits. 

It's like you can't wait for it to happen. Seriously, go get a hobby or some other interest that involves you becoming enthused about something you can affect personally. 

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4 minutes ago, notwell said:

It's not really cheating or immoral though. 

And if you wanted to play the morality card then it's certainly no more immoral that  the regressive and punitive tax regimes that people, who can, seek to avoid.

There are no punitive taxes involved, nor are taxes to support society immoral. 

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Why refer to immorality then?

Immorality is opinion. What is immoral to me might not be to you.

That's where rules and law come in and all that really matters.

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Just now, Lxxx said:

It's like you can't wait for it to happen. Seriously, go get a hobby or some other interest that involves you becoming enthused about something you can affect personally. 

It's nice to see tax dodgers getting their comeuppance and even more so when the ghouls who survive on facilitating the immorality face being hung out to dry.

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