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It's a country with some crazy people. If an armed citizenry was the norm in Britain, do you think it'd have the same problem or is it just about the Yanks and their culture? 

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6 minutes ago, quilp said:

It's a country with some crazy people. If an armed citizenry was the norm in Britain, do you think it'd have the same problem or is it just about the Yanks and their culture? 

It wouldn't be as bad, there would still be mass shootings, but not with the same frequency.

America has a deeply engrained gun culture, from the grizzled and stoic cowboy, the valiant and heroic patriot, and the modern version which is the Hollywood "one man versus evil" trope.

Add to that the gun Lobby is one of the largest in America (along side alcohol, tobacco and fossil fuels).

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31 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said:

I'd prefer open sword carry.

And sword fighting classes to be mandatory at school.

Absolutely - let’s keep this historically authentic..only Viking weaponry here. Sword fighting classes progressively scale up until you’re in the sixth form where, instead of seeking appointment as a prefect, you can aim to become one of your school’s Beserkers.

And bollocks to football/rugby/cricket/netball...the school trains its own shield wall for inter-school combat (girls included of course; there were shield maidens).

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2 hours ago, RIchard Britten said:

America has a deeply engrained gun culture, from the grizzled and stoic cowboy, the valiant and heroic patriot, and the modern version which is the Hollywood "one man versus evil" trope.

Yes. Thing is, we don't blame cars when a drunk driver kills people, do we?

At the same time, the second amendment instilled the significance of an armed citizenry to counter bad government. An amendment drawn up when the best of firearms were 8-bore muskets, even governments of the day were limited to relatively small arms. Whereas now, well, an AR16/17, bump stocked or full auto is of little use against an improbable rogue government armed with tanks, amoured cars and Black Hawks. 

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2 hours ago, mojomonkey said:

Hard to make out due to the resolution but I don't think that's the US. They look possibly like French soldiers.

I agree. Look very like French uniforms, it’s a catholic priest, and I think that’s a WW1 French 58mm trench mortar.

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7 hours ago, quilp said:

Yes. Thing is, we don't blame cars when a drunk driver kills people, do we?

At the same time, the second amendment instilled the significance of an armed citizenry to counter bad government. An amendment drawn up when the best of firearms were 8-bore muskets, even governments of the day were limited to relatively small arms. Whereas now, well, an AR16/17, bump stocked or full auto is of little use against an improbable rogue government armed with tanks, amoured cars and Black Hawks. 

I realise he’s dead but Justice Scalia and no doubt his originalist successor interpreted the right to bear arms very broadly: tanks, aircraft they’re as much allowed as a musket. 

We should be very worried about Elon Musk. 

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You're right of course China. But a quick search reveals the ownership of tanks is allowed but must be 'down-gunned.' And a fully armed fighter jet is a no-no too. You can't buy either of them in Walmart  or Macey's so...

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