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In the private sector £100 a week will get you a room in a former B&B type place.

 

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11 minutes ago, gettafa said:

In the private sector £100 a week will get you a room in a former B&B type place.

 

In a no go zone.

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Actually Broadway. Incidentally the flats were literally a no go zone a few months back, but that is another story.

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The sooner means testing for LA accommodation is brought in, the better. To include not only earnings income but also what some have salted away, particularly from the sale of property, owned or inherited, after taking up LA housing (and yes, I do know of some and yes it does go on).

The system is having the piss taken out of it on a grand scale in some instances.

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8 minutes ago, Non-Believer said:

The sooner means testing for LA accommodation is brought in, the better. To include not only earnings income but also what some have salted away, particularly from the sale of property, owned or inherited, after taking up LA housing (and yes, I do know of some and yes it does go on).

The system is having the piss taken out of it on a grand scale in some instances.

Lots of them are double and triple piss takers. With public sector jobs as well where were subsidizing their housing, paying their wages, and funding most of their pension for them as well. Then we wonder why there’s no cash left? 

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There was a woman kicking off in Castletown Commissioners Facebook page that the exterior of her house hadn’t been painted and the double glazing is draughty so they had better be sorted for an extra £2 a week. Her and her partner have a £40k+ motorhome for the European tours and are not long back from a trip to Dubai. The mind boggles.

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The problem is that means testing (if ever brought in) only addresses the issue of increasing rent relative to increasing income, it does not address the fact that, say, Dave and Sharon started life together on piss poor wages and were therefore offered a 3 bedroom house from the local authority  (The had two children despite the fact they were in no financial position to have even one child), they stayed at this financial level until their children were almost adults themselves but then their fortunes changed they both got jobs which paid quite handsomely and then their children both moved out and began to make their way in life...now Dave and Sharon were living in a house with two spare bedrooms and enjoying holidays abroad a few times a year and both drove around in better than 2 year old Ford Mondeos...they were means tested and their rent was increased by a few percent...they were happy. However, they now resided in a house that could have been offered to a young couple that are in a similar position to the one they found themselves in some 20 odd years ago, do they care? NO! Do they move out and buy a house or rent privately now that they can easily afford to? NO!

And this is why people in Dave's and Sharon's position should be told to get the duck out of the house and rent a house in the private sector so as to free up the housing stock for people in far less fortunate circumstances, in the absence of them doing the right thing then the authorities should enforce eviction whilst informing the occupants that they are among the most selfish cunts on this island and that the irony of their situation is completely lost on them because they are so fucking blind to the obvious. 

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1 hour ago, gettafa said:

Actually Broadway. Incidentally the flats were literally a no go zone a few months back, but that is another story.

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They own a number of different buildings around Broadway. They are slums like something out of a Charles Dickens novel.  How they can charge more than £10 a week while keeping a straight face is beyond me.

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Do you ever get the feeling that as the ones that pay all the taxes work hard don’t ask for handouts, we are the mugs in all of this and in fact we would be better off doing nothing 

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1 hour ago, dilligaf said:

http://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/public-sector-housing-rent-rise-announced/

So a 3 bedroomed house is still only about £100 per week or less. So about 50% of similar in the private sector.:o

But the answer isn't to increase public sector rents. It's for the private sector to reduce their rents as they are obviously a joke. Unfortunately, they can rip people off and get away with it because any time someone proposes reforms, the landlords band together and get an army of lawyers to shut it down.

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4 minutes ago, yootalkin2me said:

And this is why people in Dave's and Sharon's position should be told to get the duck out of the house and rent a house in the private sector so as to free up the housing stock for people in far less fortunate circumstances, in the absence of them doing the right thing then the authorities should enforce eviction whilst informing the occupants that they are among the most selfish cunts on this island and that the irony of their situation is completely lost on them because they are so fucking blind to the obvious. 

I was hoping if it came in that it would come in for everyone; those in the system and those now applying. As you say the main piss takers are the ones who have been in there for years and are blocking subsidized family housing stock from people who really need it. 

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42 minutes ago, yootalkin2me said:

The problem is that means testing (if ever brought in) only addresses the issue of increasing rent relative to increasing income, it does not address the fact that, say, Dave and Sharon started life together on piss poor wages and were therefore offered a 3 bedroom house from the local authority  (The had two children despite the fact they were in no financial position to have even one child), they stayed at this financial level until their children were almost adults themselves but then their fortunes changed they both got jobs which paid quite handsomely and then their children both moved out and began to make their way in life...now Dave and Sharon were living in a house with two spare bedrooms and enjoying holidays abroad a few times a year and both drove around in better than 2 year old Ford Mondeos...they were means tested and their rent was increased by a few percent...they were happy. However, they now resided in a house that could have been offered to a young couple that are in a similar position to the one they found themselves in some 20 odd years ago, do they care? NO! Do they move out and buy a house or rent privately now that they can easily afford to? NO!

And this is why people in Dave's and Sharon's position should be told to get the duck out of the house and rent a house in the private sector so as to free up the housing stock for people in far less fortunate circumstances, in the absence of them doing the right thing then the authorities should enforce eviction whilst informing the occupants that they are among the most selfish cunts on this island and that the irony of their situation is completely lost on them because they are so fucking blind to the obvious. 

Alternatively if they wanted to stay they could at  a  'market rent' and  the increased revenue from them and those in a similar position could be used to fund  more social housing perhaps ?:flowers:

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54 minutes ago, yootalkin2me said:

The problem is that means testing (if ever brought in) only addresses the issue of increasing rent relative to increasing income, it does not address the fact that, say, Dave and Sharon started life together on piss poor wages and were therefore offered a 3 bedroom house from the local authority  (The had two children despite the fact they were in no financial position to have even one child), they stayed at this financial level until their children were almost adults themselves but then their fortunes changed they both got jobs which paid quite handsomely and then their children both moved out and began to make their way in life...now Dave and Sharon were living in a house with two spare bedrooms and enjoying holidays abroad a few times a year and both drove around in better than 2 year old Ford Mondeos...they were means tested and their rent was increased by a few percent...they were happy. However, they now resided in a house that could have been offered to a young couple that are in a similar position to the one they found themselves in some 20 odd years ago, do they care? NO! Do they move out and buy a house or rent privately now that they can easily afford to? NO!

And this is why people in Dave's and Sharon's position should be told to get the duck out of the house and rent a house in the private sector so as to free up the housing stock for people in far less fortunate circumstances, in the absence of them doing the right thing then the authorities should enforce eviction whilst informing the occupants that they are among the most selfish cunts on this island and that the irony of their situation is completely lost on them because they are so fucking blind to the obvious. 

I agree 100%

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