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10 hours ago, dilligaf said:

Your post implied she was MALE. That is all .

But as I said, she was a nurse and by all account a decent one. That is the only input she can make to DHSC. Playing at being a Tory "over there", means Jack Shit here.

Should have stayed as a nurse in my view.

I am now out of this convo, because I am getting pissed off and will say more than I should.

 BTW , the typo in your third sentence is open to abuse too.

It was a typo I dont know why you’re getting so focused on me mis gendering someone? I know you’re getting pissed off but sometimes things have to be said. The way the DHSC is delivering policy and is treating the old and the vulnerable in the quest to save money is quite disgraceful. 

I’m no great fan of Cretters but I’m glad he’s raising this issue now. 

http://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/dhscs-policies-for-elderly-criticised-by-mlc/

I cant see how that DHSC political “dream team” is going to make any difference either. The bad decisions and bad policies are being put in place by the civil servants and the whole inertia and cuts affecting everyone but themselves are being driven by civil servants too. It needs to be dealt with. 

 

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20 hours ago, thesultanofsheight said:

 Ann Corlett - a woman who I’m not sure even exists in reality as she seems to be struck with Geoff Corkish disease which seems to cause almost total silence on any political matter no matter how mundane.  

Whoa whoa whoa - I'm not having that. She got hard on pills made available over the counter http://www.iomtoday.co.im/article.cfm?id=37663&headline=Viagra to be sold over the counter&sectionIs=news&searchyear=2017

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38 minutes ago, Donald Trumps said:

STANDING COMMITTEE OF TYNWALD ON PUBLIC ACCOUNTS - FIRST REPORT FOR THE SESSION 2017-2018 - OVERSPENDING AT NOBLE’S HOSPITAL – FIRST REPORT

http://www.tynwald.org.im/business/opqp/sittings/Tynwald%2020162018/2018-PP-0004.pdf 

The section on Financial Management is quite revealing:

Page 19, para 73 

We acknowledge there is a requirement to save £10M

Page 19, para 74, 

But the Minister admits she hasn’t got a clue what those savings might actually be

Page 20, para 75, 

Minister says she’s doing her best (without describing what their plan or their best actually is) 

Page 20: para 76, 

We say we have £5M of savings but basically nobody in here knows what they are. There is no plan identifying them either

Page 20, para 77

We can’t make the savimgs that are being requested as we haven’t got a fucking clue how to go about it

Page 20, para 78

Bettison then drops Minister in the shit as they should never have agreed to cost savings they can’t deliver in the first place

Page 20, para 80

We have no fucking idea what we are doing, nor any formal plan

Page 23, para 88

Oh dear, Treasury really wanted us to save money not dick about thinking about it. We’re fucked. 

The Net result of all that to me suggests that the Minister should never have trusted civil servants to find any savings as clearly they had no intention of doing so. Neither did they have a plan to do so. They apparently said they could save £5M but then couldn’t adequately identify how they had made that figure up. Then even Bettison resigned as it was clear they were fucked. Callister probably did one at the first sign of trouble at the start of the financial year so Kate had to take it squarely on the chin as last (only) man standing. Even though it’s the civil servants who were apparently charged with finding savings that they couldn’t and who didn’t seem to have any plan to find or deliver anything. 

It does suggest to me the behaviour of some of the other Department members was somewhat cowardly as only one person saw this mess through to the end .... to basically get the bullet for it all. But where do we go from now? Page 23, para 88 suggests Treasury is just going to give them less next year and it’s up to them to make it balance. Who would want to be Ashford of anyone else in that case as they’re just going to be COMINs human shield. 

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No self-respecting civil servant is going to find or implement cuts that might impact on them or any other civil servant directly? Surely?

Which is why it can't be left to them and why we're in the mess we're now in. The truth is outing...slowly and probably too late.

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1 hour ago, Non-Believer said:

No self-respecting civil servant is going to find or implement cuts that might impact on them or any other civil servant directly? 

I agree with that. I do wish they would start on another Department first while the DHSC gets its act in order and engages an external review from an external agency; but it does need external parties in here as the civil servants will not change themselves or do anything that impacts on them or their livelihoods. First up it’s would be easier to get millions of savings out of the DOI and the DfE instantly just by stopping them spending. Every 5th van on the road seems to be a brand new DOI van, and we’ve seen from Vision Nine what a total miss managed bag of crap the DfE is. If they’re going to play hardball they should be looking there first. 

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7 hours ago, thesultanofsheight said:

The section on Financial Management is quite revealing:

Page 19, para 73 

We acknowledge there is a requirement to save £10M

Page 19, para 74, 

But the Minister admits she hasn’t got a clue what those savings might actually be

Page 20, para 75, 

Minister says she’s doing her best (without describing what their plan or their best actually is) 

Page 20: para 76, 

We say we have £5M of savings but basically nobody in here knows what they are. There is no plan identifying them either

Page 20, para 77

We can’t make the savimgs that are being requested as we haven’t got a fucking clue how to go about it

Page 20, para 78

Bettison then drops Minister in the shit as they should never have agreed to cost savings they can’t deliver in the first place

Page 20, para 80

We have no fucking idea what we are doing, nor any formal plan

Page 23, para 88

Oh dear, Treasury really wanted us to save money not dick about thinking about it. We’re fucked. 

The Net result of all that to me suggests that the Minister should never have trusted civil servants to find any savings as clearly they had no intention of doing so. Neither did they have a plan to do so. They apparently said they could save £5M but then couldn’t adequately identify how they had made that figure up. Then even Bettison resigned as it was clear they were fucked. Callister probably did one at the first sign of trouble at the start of the financial year so Kate had to take it squarely on the chin as last (only) man standing. Even though it’s the civil servants who were apparently charged with finding savings that they couldn’t and who didn’t seem to have any plan to find or deliver anything. 

It does suggest to me the behaviour of some of the other Department members was somewhat cowardly as only one person saw this mess through to the end .... to basically get the bullet for it all. But where do we go from now? Page 23, para 88 suggests Treasury is just going to give them less next year and it’s up to them to make it balance. Who would want to be Ashford of anyone else in that case as they’re just going to be COMINs human shield. 

But there is also material in there that makes it clear that Beecroft wouldn’t let the other politicians anywhere near decision making...she may indeed have seen it through alone but only because she alienated those appointed by Tynwald to help carry the load.

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20 minutes ago, Uhtred said:

But there is also material in there that makes it clear that Beecroft wouldn’t let the other politicians anywhere near decision making...she may indeed have seen it through alone but only because she alienated those appointed by Tynwald to help carry the load.

I look forward to you highlighting that then. Callister left after 8 weeks which isn’t even starting the job, and Bettison left just before the guillotine came down on Beecroft. It’s obvious where she was coming from in the section I highlighted above. 

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1 hour ago, thesultanofsheight said:

I look forward to you highlighting that then. Callister left after 8 weeks which isn’t even starting the job, and Bettison left just before the guillotine came down on Beecroft. It’s obvious where she was coming from in the section I highlighted above. 

I’m very happy to highlight it. Read the opinion of the PAC at paras 113 and 119 - in the latter case particularly the bold text - and the oral evidence of the other political members, including the two you don’t mention; Corlett and Moorhouse.

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