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34 minutes ago, foxdaleliberationfront said:

That's the awkward fact they all forget about! The death rate remains near constant. 

 

The safety improvements have made fuck all difference. 

Safety standards are higher, but so are speeds. Ergo, no improvement in survivability.

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1 hour ago, foxdaleliberationfront said:

Deckchairs. Titanic. 

Make your mind up, they are all positive safety improvements which you asked for? 

1 hour ago, foxdaleliberationfront said:

That's the awkward fact they all forget about! The death rate remains near constant. 

 

The safety improvements have made fuck all difference. 

Really, no difference? 

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1 minute ago, Max Power said:

Make your mind up, they are all positive safety improvements which you asked for? 

Really, no difference? 

Sadly Max, he is correct. There is no downward turn in deaths or serious injuries,  no matter what safety measures are thought up.

Something HAS to change sooner rather than later.

The TT must be a fantastic event for race fans and most bikers, but look at the figures. How long before there are 300 deaths ?

It is already 260 without those who sadly die after being shipped out.

It is insane to accept this death rate as being part and parcel of the "sport".

 Bikes are just simply too fast these days to be racing on country roads.

 Evolution dictates that everything evolves, but even the dinosaurs died out.

The TT will too and sooner than many folk think.

 It does not prop our economy up as those in gov would have you believe.

That video " on the edge" is a hint.

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What I was referring to was that the changes made have probably worked to prevent casualties climbing as speeds have increased, particularly in relation to spectators. The statistics will hopefully take a downward trajectory as some of what has been implemented takes effect. For example, the MGP[1] has had no fatalities for the past three years as they have made changes now being adopted at the TT and CTT. Of course sometimes it's just a matter of fate, a rider can fall awkwardly and sustain a life ending injury or he might just slide along and get up and walk away.  

[1] I hate saying this and tempting fate, as sometimes that is all that determines things. 

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11 minutes ago, gettafa said:

The focus has been taken off the cause of the crash. Maybe a possibility of getting through all this without 'going there'?

ACU insists Mercer receiving support during recovery

If you read even that Manx Radio summary, while they claim  "the ACU has been providing all rehabilitation required as medically advised to assist Mercer's recovery" this is actually based on the idea that "its robust insurance package provides the best possible support for riders while recovering from injuries".  So in other words it's got nothing to do with what the ACU provides of its own free will, but what the insurance company is providing because it has been paid the premiums. presumably by Mercer.

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1 hour ago, Roger Mexico said:

If you read even that Manx Radio summary, while they claim  "the ACU has been providing all rehabilitation required as medically advised to assist Mercer's recovery" this is actually based on the idea that "its robust insurance package provides the best possible support for riders while recovering from injuries".  So in other words it's got nothing to do with what the ACU provides of its own free will, but what the insurance company is providing because it has been paid the premiums. presumably by Mercer.

No Roger, all ACU licence holders are covered by event insurance, the licence fee is negligible, the event insurance would be paid by the IOMG or ACU Events Ltd in the case of the TT, that's the policy he would be being paid out under. Normally, in club racing for example, the premium would be included in the entry fee but there is no fee for TT entrants such as Steve Mercer who was riding for the Honda team. There is also an ACU Benevolent Fund, seperate to any insurance monies, which kicks in to help injured riders. 

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1 hour ago, Max Power said:

No Roger, all ACU licence holders are covered by event insurance, the licence fee is negligible, the event insurance would be paid by the IOMG or ACU Events Ltd in the case of the TT, that's the policy he would be being paid out under. Normally, in club racing for example, the premium would be included in the entry fee but there is no fee for TT entrants such as Steve Mercer who was riding for the Honda team. There is also an ACU Benevolent Fund, seperate to any insurance monies, which kicks in to help injured riders. 

When was the entry fee dropped for the TT?

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1 hour ago, Max Power said:

No Roger, all ACU licence holders are covered by event insurance, the licence fee is negligible, the event insurance would be paid by the IOMG or ACU Events Ltd in the case of the TT, that's the policy he would be being paid out under. Normally, in club racing for example, the premium would be included in the entry fee but there is no fee for TT entrants such as Steve Mercer who was riding for the Honda team. There is also an ACU Benevolent Fund, seperate to any insurance monies, which kicks in to help injured riders. 

Thanks.   I wasn't quite sure on how it was done for 'elite' riders - hence my 'presumably' - and whether they paid entry and it was effectively reimbursed within appearance fees or whether entry was waived.  But the point remains that the ACU isn't paying whatever is demanded for Mercer's care and rehabilitation - it's coming out of insurance paid for (directly or indirectly) by IOMG and what is covered will be dictated by the insurance company.

It's rather like a drunk driver issuing a statement that he was paying for the full treatment of his victims and then discovering that it was actually being done by insurance paid for by his employer and by the NHS.

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