Derek Flint 4,150 Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 55 minutes ago, monasqueen said: Having been on a number of UK roads recently, "A" roads and motorways, it is rare that speeds could even come close to being in excess of the limits in force. It would be nice if you could actually increase your speed to the figure on the restriction sign..... ......incidents, accidents, road works etc.... .......and don't mention potholes. Sefton Street in Liverpool is at least as bad as the Prom was before the resurfacing. (Heading south/north from/to the Pier Head). The M6, both north and south, through the road works areas, have horrendous holes in the middle lane, where the original lane markings were erased and filled in, and the fillings have all dropped out. IOM roads are wonderful in comparison! I agree. A run back to the boat From Cardiff really surprised me with the state of some roads. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doc.fixit 2,857 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 ........ok folks, get your teeth round this, 1. overall speed limit of 50mph 2.registration and insurance for cyclists 3,groups of more than two cyclists not allowed 4.compulsory training for all cyclists, a.to reflect their vulnerability b.to reflect their attitude to all other road users c.to increase their awareness of the needs of other road users, particularly large trucks, buses, ag. vehicles and vehicles towing trailers. ...there you go, argue to your heart's content...........I'll just watch........... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Non-Believer 12,832 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 The "R" Plate 50mph restriction for newly qualified drivers appears to be either unenforceable or generally disregarded (or both). There have been some horrific accidents and fatalities involving young people in cars in the last 4-5 years. Is it time to look for something else? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yootalkin2me 917 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 (edited) Yes, when I passed my bike test some years ago I simply didn't display R plates as I was too keen to go well over 50mph and I thought that there would be over zealous mobile phone users driving along (passengers of course) when I roared past them on my powerful motorcycle that they inform Plod and I'd get nicked. By not displaying R plates allowed me the freedom of the Queen's Highway not once did Plod pull me over. Edited April 6, 2018 by yootalkin2me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
La Colombe 2,280 Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Derek Flint 4,150 Posted April 7, 2018 Author Share Posted April 7, 2018 10 hours ago, Non-Believer said: The "R" Plate 50mph restriction for newly qualified drivers appears to be either unenforceable or generally disregarded (or both). There have been some horrific accidents and fatalities involving young people in cars in the last 4-5 years. Is it time to look for something else? Technology can solve that if we are simply bold enough. And in fairness, although the worst car crash I ever dealt with was a young driver, I’ve been to many more with people old enough to know better Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Annoymouse 874 Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 People will never agree on what changes need to happen. I'm sick of tailgaters who I've overtaken because they were doing 40 mph in an unrestricted only for them to catch me up in the 30mph limit and sit 1 car length or less behind. In the recent snow I avoided using my brakes were possible and used engine braking instead. On a downhill section a car behind was right up my arse and had a big slide when they used their brakes and I didn't. Apparently I was the cause of the accident as I braked without warning? Do they not teach engine braking to slow the car down any more? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
La Colombe 2,280 Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Annoymouse said: Apparently I was the cause of the accident as I braked without warning? Do they not teach engine braking to slow the car down any more? Whilst preparing for my test I was told to lightly touch the brake pedal when engine braking to activate the brake lights when someone was behind. If someone was 'right up behind' it would be silly not to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Annoymouse 874 Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 20 minutes ago, La Colombe said: Whilst preparing for my test I was told to lightly touch the brake pedal when engine braking to activate the brake lights when someone was behind. If someone was 'right up behind' it would be silly not to. They were about two car lengths behind and it was a long downhill section with a few corners, I would've thought it was evident what I was doing when I started at the top of the hill as I was using my brakes lightly on the straight until about 20ft or so before the corner, but there you go. My brake pedal is so light that it's hard to feel the brake switch, you can't even hear the relay clicking. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
finlo 4,876 Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Tough titty if they insist on driving right up your chuff! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
La Colombe 2,280 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 This consultation is ridiculous. It's easy to make an attempt at improving road safety on the island. Just copy the rest of the civilised world and benefit from their experiences for free. A sensible national speed limit with speed cameras for starters. Simple. But we all know it won't happen. So what is the point? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Derek Flint 4,150 Posted April 8, 2018 Author Share Posted April 8, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, La Colombe said: This consultation is ridiculous. It's easy to make an attempt at improving road safety on the island. Just copy the rest of the civilised world and benefit from their experiences for free. A sensible national speed limit with speed cameras for starters. Simple. But we all know it won't happen. So what is the point? You are absolutely, 100%spot on the money. Over my career, all we seemed to end up with was legislation which was specially ruined for the Isle of Man - a buggeration of the UK Act. One of my biggest challenges in my former role was trying to do anything meaningful towards towards road safety without a National Strategy. We had one for drugs and alcohol, so why not Road Safety? And the continual decimation of specialist RPU resources was also far from helpful. I do believe there is the appetite for real change at last. If Safe System philosophy isn’t implemented, and the big, grown up debates about speed cameras and speed limits don’t take place, then the DHA, and moreso the Isle of Man Government will have blood on its hands. The time for change has come. Edited April 8, 2018 by Derek Flint 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
finlo 4,876 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Where can we see these toads you speak of? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Albert Tatlock 11,534 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Let's see the detailed causes of accidents first...which are not speed in most cases. Rather than the usual fuckwit pro/anti debate where people use 2+2 to get 5 and go in with their minds made up. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dirty Buggane 200 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 And we all know what a sparkling succes the drug and alchohol statergy was. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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