John Wright Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 On 9/12/2018 at 9:50 AM, TheTeapot said: That report linked by John above has the project name redacted. As the report was commissioned by IOM Treasury I'm assuming they picked the project name. Wonder what it was... Orca 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 12 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: yes, but are you any the wiser? Not really, just wanted to know how original or imaginative they were. And they were about as original and imaginative as expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Whatever happened to OCRA anyway? They were pretty big for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said: Whatever happened to OCRA anyway? Ramsey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Majorly affected by HMRC closing a lot of the tax loopholes that OCRA (and others) exploited, IIRC. Their premises has been unoccupied and on the market for quite some time now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 3 hours ago, TheTeapot said: Aha! ORCA! Office of Reckless Costly Acquisitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 36 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said: Whatever happened to OCRA anyway? It was the victim of a loan-shark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 4 hours ago, John Wright said: Where, anywhere, does it say that new vessels must be in place by 2023. Answer, because we know your comprehension is limited, Nowhere. I know two new boats are needed at some time in the next ten to 15 years, because that’s what Braemar says. You claimed they were needed within 5 and that was set out in a report you had linked to, but wouldn’t relink to. The fact that the Steam Packet were thinking ahead about procuring new tonnage isn’t new. It’s what predicated this when they sought an extension agreement. However there is nothing, in anything you link to that says it must be within 4.5 years. Indeed the survey says 10 to 15 by reference to running hours. Youve claimed they had to have two new boats, within 5 years and they were unfounded. Now, back that up, or shut up. Just to remind you, yesterday, at 08.13, you said according to the report on which the iomg bought the company, those boats won't last and 2 new boats are needed very soon to meet target..... 100% unfunded because the income (not profit as you claim) is been used to repay the debt..... new boats should of been funded during the life of ben and mannanan but that cash sailed off to the owners...... There is nothing, any where, to back up the claim by you that the Ben and Mannanan “won’t last” Quote Company Chief Executive Mark Woodward said: "the Company is committed to delivering a replacement for Ben-my-Chree by 2019/21 and Manannan by 2022/2" john appears to be the only person that didn't know 2 new boats are required...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 So apart from Liverpool needing x millions of taxpayers cash, and two boats needing x millions of the forward cashflow, or is that repaying the loan ? I've lost track ! Glad we are rolling in cash ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 53 minutes ago, woody2 said: john appears to be the only person that didn't know 2 new boats are required...... It may be committed, but that doesn’t mean they were necessary, or urgent. And wasn’t that in the heat of their gissa new user agreement and we will... get 2 new boats by 2021 and 2022. It was sales pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 With tricks like that i'm glad we've seen the last of those fellows. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 minute ago, the stinking enigma said: With tricks like that i'm glad we've seen the last of those fellows. ? Management is being retained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulb Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 49 minutes ago, John Wright said: ? Management is being retrained. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 2 hours ago, John Wright said: ? Management is being retained. Sarcasm LOL, Woodward was noted for being, and I am being kind here, less than friendly towards MHK's who questioned the proposed offer, he and others should have been dumped when government became the owners ! However as what went on to get us to this stage is unknown, I doubt that will happen. Despite the rumblings of Gawne etc there was never any serious consideration of an alternative, nor of any thinking outside the box, I hope this works out financially for the island but after watching disaster after disaster unfold, I can't say I am confident ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primator Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 So what odds do you think I might get on the threat of a Steam Packet strike just in time for the 2019 TT? - It’ll be just like the good old days.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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