Jump to content
Manx Forums, Live Chat, Blogs & Classifieds for the Isle of Man
manxy

5G Network Radiation?

Recommended Posts

2 minutes ago, Uhtred said:
2 hours ago, dilligaf said:

Well it was a fair bet that the first poster to mock ScotsAlan's post would either be manxy or PGW. Like the sun coming up and the sun going down. Ignorant.:(

Is that the sun going down in relation to a flat planet or a real one.

FH , I was going to say that in my post. Creepy :o

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, manxy said:

Sorry fella but I don't think I'm ignorant but telling the truth openly attracts people who have vested interests that may even affect their businesses. If people in places like WHO are concerned and also speak out, then I can't see little me making any type of statement that will make those in the know change their minds?

Far too many people are involved for this to be fobbed off now although there's lots out there who think that it must be ok, as surely someone wouldn't hurt anyone and our Government would protect us as thats why we pay them, then sad to say, there's lots of greedy people out there and you cant say I'm wrong Dilli as many times people claim brown envelopes and dodgy dealings go on behind closed doors.

All I want is for a proper and thorough independent investigation be taken on 5G / Smart Meters and let the scientists and professionals explain the facts. 

Why the all over the world rush?

The world doesn't work like this. Progress in science dictates that you do things and see what happens. Progress dictates it and the profit motive makes it absolutely undeniable. Had this not been the case since the dawn of time, we would not be living the lives we live now.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Imagine if Manxy had overseen test flights on jet airplanes...

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
13 hours ago, John Wright said:

So, how long would you postpone introduction for the tests.

Many of the things you are concerned about may take 10, 20, 30, 40 years or more before there can be any detectable adverse results.

You're also naive to think anything can be proved safe. That’s not how testing works. You can prove something unsafe, you can prove low risk, based on testing results, at the time, with the science available, and depending on how long you run tests for. Oh, and the honesty of the tests.

But you can’t, for 5G, or anything similar, test that it’s safe, and eliminate all the other factors that might cause cancers, Leukaemia, low fertility, etc. Etc.

I personally would postpone them immediately and if it takes a long time to resolve, then so be it, but it won't be me doing the tests and wont be me hurrying any tests along, so its pointless asking for my personal opinion unless I was in the scientific circles, which I'm not and its therefore something you should take on board from the hundreds of scientists that you call in question based on unsafe technology that was conducted with vested interests from the telecommunications industry who were on the same board! 

Thing is John, I donate to various charities as like you've said before, but just think for a second, what if 5G is directly responsible for harming biological things and also responsible for ailments that lead on to a persons death? People may say that its never harmed them, but until the Doctor says, you have this or that wrong with you and only guessing as to what the cause is, then EMF falls right into that category, especially if you have a mobile phone or work at a computer/laptop for considerable amounts of time a day.

What RF readings does your mobile emit?

What readings does your computer emit?

If you can't answer those, then you or others may be in danger, but whether you or others want to check, do something about it or not, then thats up to the individual, but more than likely because its unseen, most people ignore the dangers because it doesn't affect our senses and unlike for instance fire, it does not immediately hurt you if touched.  Not trying to be sarcastic as thats basically what people tend to do. 

 

Screen Shot 2019-05-23 at 10.43.33.png

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
12 hours ago, Neil Down said:

Imagine if Manxy had overseen test flights on jet airplanes...

No need for that ND but here's an example - You wouldn't stick an unknown stranger in with a load of children and let him look after the children day and night. Simple reason being is that he 'might' be a paedophile and being yourself a responsible person, you would make sure safeguards were in place. The same applies to EMF. You allow children to play on their computers laptops and other devices but you don't know if they are safe, but presume so or they wouldn't be sold or so one would think.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, manxy said:

No need for that ND but here's an example - You wouldn't stick an unknown stranger in with a load of children and let him look after the children day and night. Simple reason being is that he 'might' be a paedophile and being yourself a responsible person, you would make sure safeguards were in place. The same applies to EMF. You allow children to play on their computers laptops and other devices but you don't know if they are safe, but presume so or they wouldn't be sold or so one would think.

Yet the fact remains that by far and away the largest number of rapes, and sexual assaults on underage children and young adults are committed by persons known to the parents and the youngsters: so where does that take you?

As for EMF, well its been around for a long time now, starting with Morse code, telegraph, early radio, TV, electricity transmission grids, electricity and radio and TV in the home and street and work place CRT, computers, and mobiles.

You clearly use a computer or mobile device linked to the internet. Yet you don't know its safe. You can't know its safe.

The problem is that most of what you are relying upon ( including the table you post above ) is unsubstantiated rubbish, not attributed, not peer reviewed, and is disseminated by people who have paranoia's, hidden agendas, bees in their bonnets, as gospel, and lots of decent people are taken in and fall for it. A bit like a cult. They don't critically review.

Its no different than scare stories on FB, which when you check on Snopes are total fabrication.

Most testing is independent, especially the research into EMF over the decades and the clear results for some forms, as causing an increased risk. But the frequencies used by 5G at the very low powers, aren't new, and if the higher powers used for 405 and 625 Analogue TV weren't found to cause these unspecified diseases, there is a strong likelihood that its OK.

We are all aware of negligent testing, hiding the results, especially in drugs trials, think thalidomide and its disastrous and terrible aftermath. But it came out quickly.

Given the history of EMF and its prolonged and extensive use, wouldn't it have come out by now. Conspiracies are hard to keep in the dark.

Yes I worry, id be daft not to. I have had leukaemia. But no one can say what caused my blood stem cells in my bone marrow to mutate. It may have been summers in Cornwall as a kid, exposed to radiation from the granite, or fluoride in toothpaste or water, or benzene at school in the lab, or EMF, or SBK I used when clearing my dad's jungle or treatment to pressure inject timber with anti woodworm stuff in my first house.

Or it may just be that we live longer, our cells degenerate with age, mutations happen with every cell division, most are benign, but some are nasty.

What you propose would put us into a bubble, not protected or insulated from the real world, but trying to ignore it. North Korea sound OK? Its a bit like closing your eyes, sticking fingers in ears and wearing a tin foil hat. It doesn't help.

I'm a member of several APL forums/survivors groups, maybe I'm lacking in imagination or maybe I'm stoical or just plain stupid, but the three things that tempt me to leave are the constant quests for causation (with some pretty wacky suggestions - none of it peer reviewed), the angst over that, the fad diets or non medical cures, swallowed hook line and sinker, by the gullible, and the Americans, let down by having non socialised medicine who offer prayers and have to seek gofundme because their insurance ran out and they are being denied treatment, without which they'll die..

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
18 hours ago, dilligaf said:

Well it was a fair bet that the first poster to mock ScotsAlan's post would either be manxy or PGW. Like the sun coming up and the sun going down. Ignorant.:(

Glad it wasnt me x

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
15 hours ago, Uhtred said:

Is that the sun going down in relation to a flat planet or a real one.

The fool on the hill sees the sun going down, and the eyes in his head see the whirled spinning round x

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

“And the eyes in his head see the world spinning ‘round” are the actual lyrics Paul  

Note, round world, spinning, round  not skimming ‘round, like a stone of a flat variety. :) x

 

  • Like 1
  • Haha 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, John Wright said:

Yet the fact remains that by far and away the largest number of rapes, and sexual assaults on underage children and young adults are committed by persons known to the parents and the youngsters: so where does that take you?

As for EMF, well its been around for a long time now, starting with Morse code, telegraph, early radio, TV, electricity transmission grids, electricity and radio and TV in the home and street and work place CRT, computers, and mobiles.

You clearly use a computer or mobile device linked to the internet. Yet you don't know its safe. You can't know its safe.

The problem is that most of what you are relying upon ( including the table you post above ) is unsubstantiated rubbish, not attributed, not peer reviewed, and is disseminated by people who have paranoia's, hidden agendas, bees in their bonnets, as gospel, and lots of decent people are taken in and fall for it. A bit like a cult. They don't critically review.

Its no different than scare stories on FB, which when you check on Snopes are total fabrication.

Most testing is independent, especially the research into EMF over the decades and the clear results for some forms, as causing an increased risk. But the frequencies used by 5G at the very low powers, aren't new, and if the higher powers used for 405 and 625 Analogue TV weren't found to cause these unspecified diseases, there is a strong likelihood that its OK.

We are all aware of negligent testing, hiding the results, especially in drugs trials, think thalidomide and its disastrous and terrible aftermath. But it came out quickly.

Given the history of EMF and its prolonged and extensive use, wouldn't it have come out by now. Conspiracies are hard to keep in the dark.

Yes I worry, id be daft not to. I have had leukaemia. But no one can say what caused my blood stem cells in my bone marrow to mutate. It may have been summers in Cornwall as a kid, exposed to radiation from the granite, or fluoride in toothpaste or water, or benzene at school in the lab, or EMF, or SBK I used when clearing my dad's jungle or treatment to pressure inject timber with anti woodworm stuff in my first house.

Or it may just be that we live longer, our cells degenerate with age, mutations happen with every cell division, most are benign, but some are nasty.

What you propose would put us into a bubble, not protected or insulated from the real world, but trying to ignore it. North Korea sound OK? Its a bit like closing your eyes, sticking fingers in ears and wearing a tin foil hat. It doesn't help.

I'm a member of several APL forums/survivors groups, maybe I'm lacking in imagination or maybe I'm stoical or just plain stupid, but the three things that tempt me to leave are the constant quests for causation (with some pretty wacky suggestions - none of it peer reviewed), the angst over that, the fad diets or non medical cures, swallowed hook line and sinker, by the gullible, and the Americans, let down by having non socialised medicine who offer prayers and have to seek gofundme because their insurance ran out and they are being denied treatment, without which they'll die..

Deploying logic, reason, and rational thought in debate with Manxy is, I fear, an endeavour destined to lead to disappointment. 

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1
  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I get your point Manxy.

From the posts you are making, this town bans 5G, that town bans 5G. I am not going to fact check your posts. Because I actually cant.. China is in internet lockdown cos of other world issues. Those HK ppl.

Anyway. You have nothing to fear if the news about the bans are true. 

China on the other hand. China Daily, the Government mouth piece here, is reporting how many 5g base stations are being installed. They also say Huawei has sent out a million 5g phones for field trials.

Its a political issue.

Political fearmongering has a source. American lobyists. People such as Alex Jones etc, they make millions from starting stories such as this. PGWs hero. After all, why do a real job when youtube hits earn cash. Professional liers. Funded by big pharma and oil. Maybe a slice of Apple too.

Google this. It seems Hauwei offered Apple its 5g phone chips in an exclusive deal. Apple said no.. they want their own 5g, but dont have it yet. Apple are not part of the 5g community. The companies that agrees the standard. 

But that was Chinese news.

Also in Chinese news this week. Huawei have repatriated all american workers from its Shenzhen campus. Not sure if that includes the former chief apple designer who was telling the code writers working on the Huawei OS (Ex Nokia folk), that they had to think of jellyfish. Easy money for some eh.

Anyway Manxy. Back to basics.

Do you accept my explanation for trees being choped down?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, ecobob said:

“And the eyes in his head see the world spinning ‘round” are the actual lyrics Paul  

Note, round world, spinning, round  not skimming ‘round, like a stone of a flat variety. :) x

 

You get the jist eb. Sorry for missing the apostrophe. Its the FOOL who sees the whirled spinning 'round or the sun going down. How can the sun go down in the heliocentric model!

Does the sun move? Is there a scientific experiment the proves the earth is spinning?

See you over at the fe thread x

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Manxy. I support you.

5G is political. China has it, it is installing it, and is trying to sell it to the world. 

The west(I include Samsung), have lost.

Huawei is big, its ownership is opaque, has government regulators let things slip?

You are right to question that.

But forget all this brown envelope stuff being paid to manx politicians and ministers. Do you really think some chinese dude can go to a Manx minster, say this product kills ppl, but if you keep your mouth shut you can have this brown envelope?

Actually, it would be a red envelope. Called Hungbao in China. 

I totally agree you should fight Manxy.

Go google OZ coal policy. Fight that Manxy. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
23 minutes ago, paul's got wright said:

You get the jist eb. Sorry for missing the apostrophe. Its the FOOL who sees the whirled spinning 'round or the sun going down. How can the sun go down in the heliocentric model!

Does the sun move? Is there a scientific experiment the proves the earth is spinning?

See you over at the fe thread x

Pointless nonsense.

How does it feel to lie to ppl?

Actually, I might tweet that question to Pope Francis :-)

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Uhtred said:

Deploying logic, reason, and rational thought in debate with Manxy is, I fear, an endeavour destined to lead to disappointment. 

And there you go once again - being slanderous to someone who is copying and pasting. Why can't you just add content about 5G and its positives that you strive for and stop trying to belittle everyone all the time?

 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...