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18 minutes ago, ScotsAlan said:

Pointless nonsense.

How does it feel to lie to ppl?

Actually, I might tweet that question to Pope Francis :-)

What do you think i lied about alan?

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3 minutes ago, manxy said:

And there you go once again - being slanderous to someone who is copying and pasting. Why can't you just add content about 5G and its positives that you strive for and stop trying to belittle everyone all the time?

 

You do know that the commonest form of EMR/EMF is (visible) light?

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Asbestos was a point well made on page 26 or so.

Real cover ups...

Boeing 737 max

VW emissions cheating.

The US opiod crisis..big pharma.

Sub prime mortgages and derivitives.

Nah. Ignore them. 

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1 minute ago, John Wright said:

You do know that the commonest form of EMR/EMF is (visible) light?

I see what you mean...

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4 hours ago, John Wright said:

Yet the fact remains that by far and away the largest number of rapes, and sexual assaults on underage children and young adults are committed by persons known to the parents and the youngsters: so where does that take you?

As for EMF, well its been around for a long time now, starting with Morse code, telegraph, early radio, TV, electricity transmission grids, electricity and radio and TV in the home and street and work place CRT, computers, and mobiles.

You clearly use a computer or mobile device linked to the internet. Yet you don't know its safe. You can't know its safe.

The problem is that most of what you are relying upon ( including the table you post above ) is unsubstantiated rubbish, not attributed, not peer reviewed, and is disseminated by people who have paranoia's, hidden agendas, bees in their bonnets, as gospel, and lots of decent people are taken in and fall for it. A bit like a cult. They don't critically review.

Its no different than scare stories on FB, which when you check on Snopes are total fabrication.

Most testing is independent, especially the research into EMF over the decades and the clear results for some forms, as causing an increased risk. But the frequencies used by 5G at the very low powers, aren't new, and if the higher powers used for 405 and 625 Analogue TV weren't found to cause these unspecified diseases, there is a strong likelihood that its OK.

We are all aware of negligent testing, hiding the results, especially in drugs trials, think thalidomide and its disastrous and terrible aftermath. But it came out quickly.

Given the history of EMF and its prolonged and extensive use, wouldn't it have come out by now. Conspiracies are hard to keep in the dark.

Yes I worry, id be daft not to. I have had leukaemia. But no one can say what caused my blood stem cells in my bone marrow to mutate. It may have been summers in Cornwall as a kid, exposed to radiation from the granite, or fluoride in toothpaste or water, or benzene at school in the lab, or EMF, or SBK I used when clearing my dad's jungle or treatment to pressure inject timber with anti woodworm stuff in my first house.

Or it may just be that we live longer, our cells degenerate with age, mutations happen with every cell division, most are benign, but some are nasty.

What you propose would put us into a bubble, not protected or insulated from the real world, but trying to ignore it. North Korea sound OK? Its a bit like closing your eyes, sticking fingers in ears and wearing a tin foil hat. It doesn't help.

I'm a member of several APL forums/survivors groups, maybe I'm lacking in imagination or maybe I'm stoical or just plain stupid, but the three things that tempt me to leave are the constant quests for causation (with some pretty wacky suggestions - none of it peer reviewed), the angst over that, the fad diets or non medical cures, swallowed hook line and sinker, by the gullible, and the Americans, let down by having non socialised medicine who offer prayers and have to seek gofundme because their insurance ran out and they are being denied treatment, without which they'll die..

Thank you for posting your point of view which unfortunately, is as good as mine as we both do not possess the scientific background to prove or disprove something and have to rely on information that some cannot be verified.

If anyone hasn't tried it before, then to speak up on subjects that do not follow a particular flow, then the backlash is constant, yet for the most part, the majority of posters only 'slag' a person off and do not come up with any conclusive proof. In my eyes, thats wrong.

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5 minutes ago, paul's got wright said:

What do think i lied about alan?

You lie about the earth being flat. Its a blatent lie. Simple as that

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42 minutes ago, ScotsAlan said:

I get your point Manxy.

From the posts you are making, this town bans 5G, that town bans 5G. I am not going to fact check your posts. Because I actually cant.. China is in internet lockdown cos of other world issues. Those HK ppl.

Anyway. You have nothing to fear if the news about the bans are true. 

China on the other hand. China Daily, the Government mouth piece here, is reporting how many 5g base stations are being installed. They also say Huawei has sent out a million 5g phones for field trials.

Its a political issue.

Political fearmongering has a source. American lobyists. People such as Alex Jones etc, they make millions from starting stories such as this. PGWs hero. After all, why do a real job when youtube hits earn cash. Professional liers. Funded by big pharma and oil. Maybe a slice of Apple too.

Google this. It seems Hauwei offered Apple its 5g phone chips in an exclusive deal. Apple said no.. they want their own 5g, but dont have it yet. Apple are not part of the 5g community. The companies that agrees the standard. 

But that was Chinese news.

Also in Chinese news this week. Huawei have repatriated all american workers from its Shenzhen campus. Not sure if that includes the former chief apple designer who was telling the code writers working on the Huawei OS (Ex Nokia folk), that they had to think of jellyfish. Easy money for some eh.

Anyway Manxy. Back to basics.

Do you accept my explanation for trees being choped down?

Alan who are you insinuating is my hero?

How would you know such a thing, given the fact that you dont know me or who i would call a hero?

What evidence do you have to back up your claim?

Or is it just a lazy assumption?

 

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3 minutes ago, ScotsAlan said:

You lie about the earth being flat. Its a blatent lie. Simple as that

When did i say the earth is flat alan?

Could you provide the quote please? Or is this another false claim?

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12 minutes ago, manxy said:

And there you go once again - being slanderous to someone who is copying and pasting. Why can't you just add content about 5G and its positives that you strive for and stop trying to belittle everyone all the time?

 

I am not belittling you. I’m stating a reasonable point based on your past responses to posts pointing out errors in your observations. I’d be belittling you if my comments were baseless. They aren’t.

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Just now, Uhtred said:

I am not belittling you. I’m stating a reasonable point based on your past responses to posts pointing out errors in your observations. I’d be belittling you if my comments were baseless. They aren’t.

But you don't add anything to the thread?

Bit pointless .There's so many bad words that fit your character, but I'm not going there as this doesn't do anything positive?

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2 minutes ago, manxy said:

Thank you for posting your point of view which unfortunately, is as good as mine as we both do not possess the scientific background to prove or disprove something and have to rely on information that some cannot be verified.

If anyone hasn't tried it before, then to speak up on subjects that do not follow a particular flow, then the backlash is constant, yet for the most part, the majority of posters only 'slag' a person off and do not come up with any conclusive proof. In my eyes, thats wrong.

Wait. John, the solicitor made a fantastic post. Me, the international Engineer agrees with him.

Your arguement is that you dont understand what we say, so that means we dont understand what we say, but no matter who says what, you wont believe cos you dont understand. And how can we possibly have a half or quarter understanding when you have a 16th of an understanding.

Let me figure this out.

Post truth era. 

Does that explain it.

Who coined that phrase.. dont tell me.. its a lie.

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Thats fine ScotsAlan.

Everyone has an opinion and they necessarily won't be the same as everyone is different.

My argument as you said, is about standing up for what I believe in and although there are people ready and willing to pull me down, I stand firm and won't back down because of comments aimed at belittling me or others. If anything, it makes me more resolute but I do read a good comment, regardless if it differs from mine. 

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14 minutes ago, manxy said:

Thank you for posting your point of view which unfortunately, is as good as mine as we both do not possess the scientific background to prove or disprove something and have to rely on information that some cannot be verified.

If anyone hasn't tried it before, then to speak up on subjects that do not follow a particular flow, then the backlash is constant, yet for the most part, the majority of posters only 'slag' a person off and do not come up with any conclusive proof. In my eyes, thats wrong.

Of course you’re entitled to a view or opinion, but you have to base it on peer reviewed research, not on random ramblings of people with less scientific background than you or I, if it’s to have validity. 

That’s something you have to search for, you don’t get it on FB or YouTube.

I did a research degree, many years ago. I do at least understand scientific method.

You keep on coming up with asking for conclusive proof that 5G is safe. That isn’t how science works. As long as that’s what you look for you’re in a cul de sac/dead end. In the dark, won’t ever be enlightened.

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7 minutes ago, manxy said:

But you don't add anything to the thread?

Bit pointless .There's so many bad words that fit your character, but I'm not going there as this doesn't do anything positive?

You have not commented on my answers that refer to distrust of Huawei etc. My knowledge of manufacturing in China and all the boring factual stuff.

You did not answer my question about trees being cut down in residential streets. Do you accept my explanation?

Lets do a google exploration ( I cant google of course.. only Bing).

'Are tree roots a danger to sub surface fiber optic cables'

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Thing is John - Health, safety and environmental evaluations to understand the impact on humans, wildlife and the environment have not been done. That can't be write in anyones book?

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