Galen 101 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 http://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/doi-accused-of-multiple-health-and-safety-failings/ One does have to ask if, given the DOI CEO, Nick Black, is a former Health & Safety (H&S) senior inspector, whether our expectations of the way he runs his department in respect of H&S should be higher than if he was not from that background? Or is that no different to expecting that if the CEO for the Dept of Health & Social Care were to be a former psychiatrist, that mental health services would be better than if he were say from an administrative background? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SuffolkNGoode 30 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 (edited) Not sure it is his personal responsibility, but the buck has to stop somewhere and he is the boss I suppose. Have had dealings with the Guy and nothing would surprise me! Edited September 6, 2018 by SuffolkNGoode Misspelling Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Non-Believer 12,903 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Nothing revealed as to the actual area of concern and prosecution though. Wonder if it could be anything to do with a certain mountain-climbing (or descending, to look at it another way) tram? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thesultanofsheight 9,454 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Non-Believer said: Nothing revealed as to the actual area of concern and prosecution though. Wonder if it could be anything to do with a certain mountain-climbing (or descending, to look at it another way) tram? Yes, probably more dangerous than the rally that incline down from the Mountain. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Albert Tatlock 11,628 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 It's quite disgusting the press haven't found out what. Surely it's now a matter of public record? If it were to be tram related, for example, and the season is still running, that would surely be in the public's interest? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WTF 6,050 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 11 hours ago, Albert Tatlock said: If it were to be tram related, for example, and the season is still running, that would surely be in the public's interest? yes it would be in the public interest, but not the interests of the IOMG machine. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Wright 8,354 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Given it was a first appearance, all the media could get would be the Court list, which details the basis of the summons, but not the facts. The Defendant had asked for an adjournment. The various summonses were not read out. Matter was adjourned, when, they summonses will be put, details given, and a guilty or not guilty plea made. If guilty the facts will be read to the court, if not guilty then a review and hearing date will be set, at which the evidence will be given, both prosecution and defence. Thats how it happens, whether the defendant is a government body or not. So you don’t have a conspiracy theory. Nothing is being done to hide or protect or for the convenience of government. If what you expect to happen did occur, then government would be being treated differently, and you could rightly object. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Non-Believer 12,903 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 (edited) DOI hit with £18k fine for H&S failings on the runaway tram (iomtoday). They should probably consider themselves lucky they're not getting sued for manslaughter. Edited December 11, 2018 by Non-Believer Extra bit 6 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doc.fixit 2,883 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 ............so, now will any individuals be taken to task?,,,,,,,,,,, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paswt 3,417 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, doc.fixit said: ............so, now will any individuals be taken to task?,,,,,,,,,,, Individuals can be prosecuted under the legislation ETA as well as the 'body corporate' Edited December 11, 2018 by paswt 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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