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Ballymurphy Massacre Inquest

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Just now, P.K. said:

Don't be stupid.

What, the belief was the planks were going to influence Stormont or something?

Ridiculous....

So why did the Catholic ppl turn against the army when weeks previously they had welcomed them with open arms?

They weren't the saviours they expected but instead became another arm of a gerrymandered govt 

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25 minutes ago, Rog said:

Typical Eirish.  Keep asking the same question until they get an answer they want irrespective of facts.  If they had kept out of Ulster instead of infiltrating and causing trouble there would have been no trouble.

So you believe that a gerrymandered govt and treating people of a certain religion as second class citizens was acceptable?

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1 minute ago, Maire said:

So why did the Catholic ppl turn against the army when weeks previously they had welcomed them with open arms?

They weren't the saviours they expected but instead became another arm of a gerrymandered govt 

They were never another arm of a gerrymandered government because they had nothing whatever to do with politics. Has that sunk in?

It sometimes seems that way for no other reason than it tends to be in the political arena where the consequences of their actions get played out. So you are completely wrong there. So you can explain this:

 

"So why did the Catholic ppl turn against the army when weeks previously they had welcomed them with open arms?

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PK...

People's perceptions and reality are different.

I'm telling you that this is why the Catholic people turned against the army..

I have it from the horse's mouth.

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Just now, Maire said:

PK...

People's perceptions and reality are different.

I'm telling you that this is why the Catholic people turned against the army..

I have it from the horse's mouth.

Why did they turn against the army there to protect them?

It's a very simple question.

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Because the army didn't stop the RUC etc from beatings etc..

The army enforced a curfew on the Catholic areas..

The army basically stopped the burning of houses.. that's it..

They didn't stop attacks on Catholic people by loyalists or the police.

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2 minutes ago, Maire said:

Because the army didn't stop the rich etc from beatings etc..

The army enforced a curfew on the Catholic areas..

The army basically stopped the burning of houses.. that's it..

They didn't stop attacks on Catholic people by loyalists or the police.

All of the above would have been much much worse without the planks. Simple as.

They "basically stopped the burning of houses" so because they were protecting catholics the catholics turned against them.

Why?

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Ummmm

The curfew ONLY in Catholic areas

Allowing Catholics to be beaten etc in front of them and doing nothing to stop it

Using old intelligence to raid houses and arrest people

Being the ones who enforced interment

Killing innocent people

Need I go on?

 

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8 minutes ago, Maire said:

 

"Allowing Catholics to be beaten etc in front of them and doing nothing to stop it" - don't believe that unless it was the RUC enforcing the rule of law.

"Using old intelligence to raid houses and arrest people" - supplied and directed by the RUC.

"Being the ones who enforced interment" just obeying orders alongside the RUC in the support role

"Killing innocent people" unlike the murderous thugs on both sides it wouldn't be deliberate due to ROE.

Care to try again?

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Did your family live through it?

Where you brought up with stories about it?

Was your family directly affected by it?

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3 minutes ago, Maire said:

Did your family live through it?

Where you brought up with stories about it?

Was your family directly affected by it?

We're manx, not Irish.

I'm still waiting for your explanation as to why the catholics turned against their protectors?

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I've given you the reason several times...

 

The reasons are from a Northern Irish Catholic who now lives here.

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5 hours ago, Rog said:

Typical Eirish.  Keep asking the same question until they get an answer they want irrespective of facts.  If they had kept out of Ulster instead of infiltrating and causing trouble there would have been no trouble.

We’ve previously established that you not only support terror campaigns against British soldiers and neither understand British political geography nor consider it your homeland, but try to remember these simple points:

1. Both Catholic and Protestant people of Ulster have deep historic roots in the North of Ireland. Only the most extreme headcases have ever proposed inflicting genocide on the other side. The Catholics and Protestants are essentially from the same stock. 

2. A third of Ulster is in the Republic of Ireland and has never been part of the contrived statelet of Northern Ireland. 

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