More IOM Government Spin

[TheTeapot 11,436]

27 minutes ago, Neil Down said:

gizo/teapot/howard/helmut/p3t3/linz so wrapped up in their own self importance that they fail to see the irony in their trolling comments. Please take a long hard look at yourself (shouldn't be hard as you are one and the same) and outline what you have actually brought to the table in the last couple of months apart from continually sniping from the wings.... Deary, deary me. what a sad individual you are.

You're a fucking idiot.

 

[2112 2,342]

Out of curiosity, has the renegotiated VAT agreement been sorted yet? If not, it’s not wise of Chris Thomas to indulge in ‘dick waving’ and boasting as to the economic growth of the island within the last year. Why can’t we keep quiet, and keep our heads down, say nothing to distract and draw attention. The UK Treasury I’m sure will notice the islands boasts, and they will if were not careful, reduce our income, and the excuse could be ‘we can afford it’ ‘we are boooooooming’. 

[Neil Down 8,016]

55 minutes ago, 2112 said:

Out of curiosity, has the renegotiated VAT agreement been sorted yet? If not, it’s not wise of Chris Thomas to indulge in ‘dick waving’ and boasting as to the economic growth of the island within the last year. Why can’t we keep quiet, and keep our heads down, say nothing to distract and draw attention. The UK Treasury I’m sure will notice the islands boasts, and they will if were not careful, reduce our income, and the excuse could be ‘we can afford it’ ‘we are boooooooming’. 

The art of keeping quiet eludes them

[Stu Peters 2,208]

I suspect the UK Gov probably gets monthly 'management accounts' from the IOM Treasury, and this notion that good news about our economy heralds a loss of income from Westminster is intriguing, but fundamentally untrue.

Sorry for derailing the insults. You boys do make me larf!

[finlo 5,130]

19 minutes ago, Stu Peters said:

I suspect the UK Gov probably gets monthly 'management accounts' from the IOM Treasury, and this notion that good news about our economy heralds a loss of income from Westminster is intriguing, but fundamentally untrue.

Sorry for derailing the insults. You boys do make me larf!

Well it was a certain somebody's runaway gob the started the vat renegotiations in the first place!

[Howard 128]

16 hours ago, Neil Down said:

gizo/teapot/howard/helmut/p3t3/linz so wrapped up in their own self importance that they fail to see the irony in their trolling comments. Please take a long hard look at yourself (shouldn't be hard as you are one and the same) and outline what you have actually brought to the table in the last couple of months apart from continually sniping from the wings.... Deary, deary me. what a sad individual you are.

This is literally my only login. Got nothing to do with any of those other people.

Edited September 20, 2018 by Howard

[Non-Believer 13,296]

8 hours ago, Stu Peters said:

I suspect the UK Gov probably gets monthly 'management accounts' from the IOM Treasury, and this notion that good news about our economy heralds a loss of income from Westminster is intriguing, but fundamentally untrue.

Stu.....re the monthly reporting, what happened prior to the 2008/9 VAT revision then?

Surely if there was/had been monthly reporting, that particular bombshell wouldn't have needed to have been dropped in the fashion it was...?

[John Wright 8,983]

18 minutes ago, Non-Believer said:

Stu.....re the monthly reporting, what happened prior to the 2008/9 VAT revision then?

Surely if there was/had been monthly reporting, that particular bombshell wouldn't have needed to have been dropped in the fashion it was...?

That’s mixing two different things.

There May, or may not, have been then, or is now,  monthly reporting. It’s not relevant to the VAT issue.

That arose out of two things. One relating to the definition of national income growth in the sharing agreement, which was very favourable to the Island, and the other relating to the world wide financial collapse that left the UK very short of cash. I’m not saying it wasn’t on the horizon to renegotiate, warning signs were there.

[Non-Believer 13,296]

4 hours ago, John Wright said:

That’s mixing two different things.

There May, or may not, have been then, or is now,  monthly reporting. It’s not relevant to the VAT issue.

That arose out of two things. One relating to the definition of national income growth in the sharing agreement, which was very favourable to the Island, and the other relating to the world wide financial collapse that left the UK very short of cash. I’m not saying it wasn’t on the horizon to renegotiate, warning signs were there.

Not disputing any of that, John. But if we were/are now monthly reporting on the various states of our "finances" - there's another big block out of the "independence" and "self-governing" façade? 

[Howard 128]

16 hours ago, Neil Down said:

There you go sunshine, I've changed it for something you may understand...

I don't understand. What is your new avatar supposed to be?

[John Wright 8,983]

18 minutes ago, Non-Believer said:

Not disputing any of that, John. But if we were/are now monthly reporting on the various states of our "finances" - there's another big block out of the "independence" and "self-governing" façade? 

I’m not sure there is. Why would there be? Clearly there are regular exchanges of information during the year about VAT, which gives an indication of economic performance.

[NoTail 2,067]

The VAT investigation into the Panama/Appleby scandal will be interesting

[2112 2,342]

6 minutes ago, NoTail said:

The VAT investigation into the Panama/Appleby scandal will be interesting

That’s if the IOMG don’t try to sweep any bad news under the carpet

[Neil Down 8,016]

38 minutes ago, 2112 said:

That’s if the IOMG don’t try to sweep any bad news under the carpet

I doubt there's much room left under that carpet.

[2112 2,342]

Just watch HRH The Chief Minister with his chest puffed out, having another ‘cosy’ chat with Paul Moulton, on You- Tube, at the e-gaming summit at Mount Murray. As he was formerly a political member with responsibility for egaming, he claims to be an expert. Again the usual bullshit was trotted out, growth, jobs, jobs and people buying new houses. I thought many of the new egaming workers new to the island, end up in a shared housed on Castle Mona Avenue, or housed in a former hotel/bar, having been purchased by an egaming firm, to house their employees. A good way to set down roots or be involved within the local community. Note to HRH - property prices are on their arse, even high end HNWI properties aren’t selling. It took them years to sell the Castle Mona, unless that’s a phoney sale’. 

Edited September 20, 2018 by 2112